impossible to turn down the volume MOTU 2408 Mk2

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Wed May 06, 2015 4:46 am

hi
I just plug my Genelec speakers directly at the output of my soundcard MOTU 2408 Mk2 . The sound is thoroughly impossible to settle with CueMix mixing console. Even with the sound vlc has not bottom down !!!
Even the front knob does not act. It controls the headphone volume
Do you have any idea?
thank a lot

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Wed May 06, 2015 11:26 pm

Download the manual and read it. MOTU.com offers it online.

Sorry, but that's my best idea.

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Thu May 07, 2015 1:09 pm

thank you for your reply. I have read the user manual

bayswater · Post by **bayswater** » Thu May 07, 2015 2:54 pm

Maybe you have the channel assignments in MOTU Audio Setup (or whatever the specific app is for the 2408) set so the master output is something other than the main outputs that you are monitoring.

rockitcity · Post by **rockitcity** » Fri May 08, 2015 7:30 am

philbordo wrote:hi
I just plug my Genelec speakers directly at the output of my soundcard MOTU 2408 Mk2 . The sound is thoroughly impossible to settle with CueMix mixing console. Even with the sound vlc has not bottom down !!!
Even the front knob does not act. It controls the headphone volume
Do you have any idea?
thank a lot

In what software are you trying to control the volume output? Cue Mix only works on inputs, so it won't affect your DAW application output. A little more system info might help.

I just looked up the 2408. The original version was released in 1998, so it's definitely old technology. The volume knob does indeed control the headphone output. I didn't see a reference to controlling the main output level, so it would seem you will need a monitor controller to regulate your powered speaker monitor volume. You could also run your headphone out to the Genelecs if you just want a volume control.

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Fri May 08, 2015 7:47 am

I have a MacPro under Snow Leopard. I work with LogicPro9. When I'm not working with Logic, I would like to listen to audio file with VLC for example. In VLC I can not adjust the volume that is then very strong which is annoying. Before I had a mixer MACKIE between the sound card and the Genelec speaker. The system worked well but my mixer is down. I would spend today without mixer, only by the sound card. Is it possible?
I have not tried yet with LogicPro9.
Thank you very much for your help!
Sorry for my bad english, I'm french!

bayswater · Post by **bayswater** » Fri May 08, 2015 7:51 am

rockitcity wrote:The volume knob does indeed control the headphone output. I didn't see a reference to controlling the main output level,

Quite right -- I'd forgotten about that. There is a jumper by the main volume knob to change it to control main outputs. The instructions are in the manual p 95 and printed on the circuit board.

There must be a way to control main out levels in Cuemix. I used a Mk2 for a long time, and didn't have this problem. The manual only covers System 7, so it's no help. Next time I fire up the Mk2, I'll see what's there.

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Fri May 08, 2015 7:57 am

I read in the manual how to allocate the front button control of the output volume. But I want to keep this button to control the headphone because I often work with headphones.
Is there not a way for Cue Mix controls the output volume?

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Fri May 08, 2015 8:40 am

OK, maybe I have a better idea now…

I don't think you can control the computer output level with CueMix under SnowLeopard; you can only control the level at which you monitor the 2408's inputs. I do seem to recall that, at some point, CueMix was updated to allow control over computer volume, but that may not apply to to the 2408mkII or Snow Leopard.

If no one around here can provide a definitive answer, contact MOTU directly.

As I have suggested to others periodically, an inexpensive Monitor Controller could be just the ticket. Take a look here for more...

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... =2&t=59660

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Sat May 09, 2015 2:35 am

the volume control is ok when working with PRO LOGIC 9. All audio and virtual instrument tracks that are in LOGIC have the volume controlled by LOGIC. It's very nice. But when I put a file into the dustbin of OSX, even with LOGIC open, the sound is VERY STRONG !!!
I progress but I'm not done yet!
Thank you for your help!

rockitcity · Post by **rockitcity** » Sat May 09, 2015 9:02 am

You know, if you just want a volume control while you are working on a project, you could put a Master Fader assigned to your main outputs and control your monitor level with that.

HOWEVER, this will also affect the volume of any actual mixes you may bounce, so you'll need to route things differently when actually printing mixes. You could send your source tracks to an aux mix bus, make a new audio track with the mix bus as the input and the output to your main outs. This way you can record your mix at proper levels and still have monitor control.

Your best solution is to get a monitor controller. Quit fighting the system and make it so it works properly.

mikehalloran · Post by **mikehalloran** » Sat May 09, 2015 10:39 am

If you click through the Sweetwater link and search for Studio Monitor Controller, you will find quite a few.

In the $69.99 - $299 range are many. The only two that get bad reviews are the Sampson (bad sound) and the Radius (occasional bad volume pot, ymmv). Other than that, it's hard to go wrong. Even the $70 Behringer MiniMON800 has its fans (myself included). At $299, the Presonus is highly rated and the Mackie Big Knob is a full-featured favorite in large studios. And if you wish to spend more, well, there are ways to do that, too.

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Sat May 09, 2015 12:04 pm

rockitcity wrote:You know, if you just want a volume control while you are working on a project, you could put a Master Fader assigned to your main outputs and control your monitor level with that.

HOWEVER, this will also affect the volume of any actual mixes you may bounce, so you'll need to route things differently when actually printing mixes. You could send your source tracks to an aux mix bus, make a new audio track with the mix bus as the input and the output to your main outs. This way you can record your mix at proper levels and still have monitor control.

Your best solution is to get a monitor controller. Quit fighting the system and make it so it works properly.

when you say pose a Master Fader you mean in LOGIC PRO 9?
Is that correct?

HCMarkus · Post by **HCMarkus** » Sat May 09, 2015 1:07 pm

philbordo wrote:the volume control is ok when working with PRO LOGIC 9. All audio and virtual instrument tracks that are in LOGIC have the volume controlled by LOGIC. It's very nice. But when I put a file into the dustbin of OSX, even with LOGIC open, the sound is VERY STRONG.

when you say pose a Master Fader you mean in LOGIC PRO 9?
Is that correct?

Yes. Controlling the volume of a DAW like Logic is easily done. Your problem is when audio level is controlled by OSX itself, as it is when you audition a file directly from within OSX. It plays at full volume.

rockitcity wrote:Your best solution is to get a monitor controller. Quit fighting the system and make it so it works properly.

Exactly.

philbordo · Post by **philbordo** » Sat May 09, 2015 1:19 pm

yes this is it
but I regret not being able to control the volume by OSX software

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