DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Moderator: James Steele
Forum rules
This forum is for seeking solutions to technical problems involving Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS, as well as feature requests, criticisms, comparison to other DAWs.
This forum is for seeking solutions to technical problems involving Digital Performer and/or plug-ins on MacOS, as well as feature requests, criticisms, comparison to other DAWs.
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
DP trim plug is set on all audio and aux tracks in my projects.
A single mouse click used to move +1dB or -1dB.
Now it's +2dB or -2dB.
Would like to go back to the 1dB increment. Any idea ?
A single mouse click used to move +1dB or -1dB.
Now it's +2dB or -2dB.
Would like to go back to the 1dB increment. Any idea ?
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Hmmm. I just checked in DP8 and a single mouse click on the plus or minus buttons move trim gain by 1 dB increments.
Anything weird about your mouse (a strange question I know...)? Could the mouse be doing some sort of double click operation?
Dave
Anything weird about your mouse (a strange question I know...)? Could the mouse be doing some sort of double click operation?
Dave
- Dan Worley
- Posts: 2778
- Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:03 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Northern CA
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
+/- 2dB here, too. I just checked three input devices. Apple Magic trackpad, Apple wireless mouse and Kensington USB Trackball.
DP10.13
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
2db here too. But I can see it change 1db at a time, twice in rapid succession for each click, so possibly something to do with one of the trackpad or mouse settings.
2018 Mini i7 32G macOS 12.7.6, DP 11.33, Mixbus 10, Logic 10.7.9, Scarlett 18i8, MB Air M2, macOS 14.7.6, DP 11.33, Logic 11
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
I hope you're right and will investigate further.bayswater wrote:2db here too. But I can see it change 1db at a time, twice in rapid succession for each click, so possibly something to do with one of the trackpad or mouse settings.
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
- buzzsmith
- Posts: 3097
- Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Houston
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
I've noticed this behavior as well. I think it began in 8.
Buzzy
Buzzy
Early 2009 Mac Pro 4,1>5,1 3.33 GHz Hex Core Intel Xeon OS X 10.8.5 SSD (32 gigs RAM)
DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
DP 9.51 PCI-424e / original 2408, 2408mkII, 24I/O, MTP-AV
Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
No attempt to change mouse settings has effect on increment value.
IMHO, when setting a rough premix, 1dB increment is much more relevant than 2dB.
In case you need 2dB, you can click twice...
IMHO, when setting a rough premix, 1dB increment is much more relevant than 2dB.
In case you need 2dB, you can click twice...
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
I agree it should be 1 db. But I think there is something in the way DP is interpreting a mouse click rather than a change in the design of Trim. I checked the Windows version and it works properly.
2018 Mini i7 32G macOS 12.7.6, DP 11.33, Mixbus 10, Logic 10.7.9, Scarlett 18i8, MB Air M2, macOS 14.7.6, DP 11.33, Logic 11
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
I believe, my mouse is definitely out of the game, here.
Exact same behaviour with MacBookPro trackpad.
Should I go Windoz? Just joking...
Exact same behaviour with MacBookPro trackpad.
Should I go Windoz? Just joking...
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
-
- Posts: 4839
- Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Los Angeles, CA
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
You can click on the gain window to highlight it and type in a value. Just sayin'...
2019 Mac Pro 8-core, 128GB RAM, Mac OS Sonoma, MIDI Express 128, Apogee Duet 3, DP 11.32, , Waves, Slate , Izotope, UAD, Amplitube 5, Tonex, Spectrasonics, Native Instruments, Pianoteq, Soniccouture, Arturia, Amplesound, Acustica, Reason Objekt, Plasmonic, Vital, Cherry Audio, Toontrack, BFD, Yamaha Motif XF6, Yamaha Montage M6, Korg Kronos X61, Alesis Ion,Sequential Prophet 6, Sequential OB-6, Hammond XK5, Yamaha Disklavier MK 3 piano.
http://www.davepolich.com
http://www.davepolich.com
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Thanks, David. But I already do to adjust soundbite levels in a single track.David Polich wrote:You can click on the gain window to highlight it and type in a value. Just sayin'...
Trim plug is my *premix* tool.
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
-
- Posts: 115
- Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 2:42 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: Santa Rosa, CA
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Behavior unchanged here in 8.05. Still 1 db increments using either stock mouse or Kensington trackball to click.
DP 8.07 64 bit, OS 10.10.5, Mac Pro 5,1 12-core 3.33ghz, 16GB ram, lots 'o plugs and VIs
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Hmm. Your sig says you're still on 10.7.5. I wonder if it's an OS thing. I'm seeing 2dB increments as well on my Mavericks machine. I'm not at my Snow Leopard machine right now, but will check it out there at some point.mikeka wrote:Behavior unchanged here in 8.05. Still 1 db increments using either stock mouse or Kensington trackball to click.
Phil
DP 11.34. 2020 M1 Mac Mini [9,1] (16 Gig RAM), Mac Pro 3GHz 8 core [6,1] (16 Gig RAM), OS 15.3/11.6.2, Lynx Aurora (n) 8tb, MOTU 8pre-es, MOTU M6, MOTU 828, Apogee Rosetta 800, UAD-2 Satellite, a truckload of outboard gear and plug-ins, and a partridge in a pear tree.
- daniel.sneed
- Posts: 2264
- Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:01 pm
- Primary DAW OS: MacOS
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
I started a Motu tech link.
Will report here.
Will report here.
dAn Shakin' all over!
DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...

DP11.34, OS12.7.6, MacBookPro-i7
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum, Michelangelo, Sparkverb
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Mixface
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
Re: DP trim plug 2dB increment ?
Just tried it on Snow Leopard. Works fine there.
Phil
Phil
DP 11.34. 2020 M1 Mac Mini [9,1] (16 Gig RAM), Mac Pro 3GHz 8 core [6,1] (16 Gig RAM), OS 15.3/11.6.2, Lynx Aurora (n) 8tb, MOTU 8pre-es, MOTU M6, MOTU 828, Apogee Rosetta 800, UAD-2 Satellite, a truckload of outboard gear and plug-ins, and a partridge in a pear tree.