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Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Dear friends of MOTUNATION I don´t know how many people uses a physical mixer integrated with a DAW with Digital Performer 7 but it is amazing that a company with the prestige of MOTU simply ignores the users of Yamaha DM2000, not being able to control this kind of console with Digital Performer 7

I only buy this software hoping that in this version I was going to be able to control my DM2000 mixer from my DP7 DAW, I mean this console is $20,000.00 USD console, if I use Logic (which I don´t like) it works perfect with this amazing console, obviously Protools is a marvel controlling this console, (but I don´t like protools, they impose their systems) so which one is the ONLY and the best options of course, Digital Performer "EXCEPT" for the fact that it only controls 8 faders of the 24 that the mixer have's SO

Please MOTU Please, I BEG 4 it Please give US the tools to work better with this amazing software called DP7 and our Yamaha System please don't just ignore us. Please all in this Forum help to obtain from MOTU a way to achieve this option and please make it available.
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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I don't know what it takes to achieve compatibility between a control board and a DAW, but the protocols are pretty standardized. DP works with some and apparently not with others. I suspect the first step requires the board maker to submit their specs to the DAW maker.

Why don't you write Yamaha and ask them to do the same?

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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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I'm using a Tascam DM4800 with DP7.1 and it works great.
I can do bi-directional control of 24 faders.
Pans and mutes are also enabled.
The transport controls on the Tascam work too.

I'm sure there is a way to do this on your Yamaha.
In my case, I had to figure out a pretty complicated set of parameters on the Tascam and then make a very specific MIDI setup in the Audio MIDI Setup app.

Much trial and error, but the result is quite pleasing.

I'm a diehard DP user, so it was well worth the effort.

BTW, DP7.1 is excellent.
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This is true. I have tried for 6 years to get DP to work with my DM2000, it patchy at best......
As you say, Logic works and Nuendo has perfect integration (which makes sense as Yamaha owns Steinberg)

I haven't come up with an answer. My thoughts are that Motu needs to write a driver but why should they ?
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Now that I'm in to this, I realize that the Tascam mixing board has a Digital Performer option.
They constructed a specific DP interface within the DM4800.
It was a major PITA to get working with DP, but it works very well.

I suspect that Yamaha is the culprit in your case.
They may not be supporting DP.
I don't think MOTU is to blame.
Your mixing board may not have the drivers/setup for the correct communication.

Have you asked Yamaha about their support of DP?
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Here's a fix that I got from a friend, who got it from a Yamaha tech. It is not as elegant as you would hope, but it does deliver some of the functionality you're looking for. I use it with an O2R96, but it should work just the same with your DM2000. You will need the Yamaha USB MIDI driver which can be found on their website.

Create a device in the Audio MIDI Setup>MIDI Devices window. Name it O2R96v2. Set it to transmit on channel 1 and receive on all channels, send and receive MTC, and check general MIDI under features. Connect this device to and from port 2 on the Yamaha O2R96 Interface icon in the MIDI Devices window.

Goto Setup>Control Surfaces in DP. Add a HUI driver and set MIDI to O2R96v2. Add another Driver and select Mackie Control Driver, Mackie Control as Unit, and leave MIDI blank. Close the window.

On the O2R96v2, go to Setup>MIDI to Host Setup. Under General, set Rx Port and Tx Port to MIDI but leave small box blank. Under Special Functions, Set Studio Manger to USB 1 1. Set DAW to USB 2-5. Close window.

On the O2R96v2, go to Machine Control>Display. Check DAW then close this window.

Now the DP transport is controlled by the transport buttons on the O2R96v2 and the first 16 faders control the first 16 DP faders.
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Dear Jerome thank you so much for taking the time to write this post, unfortunately this advice is not working, on the DM2000 it seems that 02R's96 drivers has been updated for the fader control panel with several Mackie protocols Including the Mackie Controller and the HUI, I know both are Mackie Protocols but not the same features, and the Mackie Controller is not working in the DM2K amazing but true, all 24 faders move at the same time with the HUI but as soon you switch from HUI to Mackie Control only the first 8 work perfect, but the 16 goes down I think this is very frustrating, but any way thank you for being so kind to post this advice, which I am sure it will be so helpful for the 02R's96 Users.
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waterstrum wrote:I'm using a Tascam DM4800 with DP7.1 and it works great.
I can do bi-directional control of 24 faders.
Pans and mutes are also enabled.
The transport controls on the Tascam work too.
Hi, Waterstrum.
I once tried setting my Tascam DM24 to work with DP, but I couldn't make it work.
I admit I probably didn't drop as many sweat drops as I should've... I got frustrated very soon.

Any tips you may care to share about how you made it work?

Or if you prefer, maybe you can post a link if you found some documentation to set it up.

@ Carlos:
Hola, Carlos.

Did you get your mixer in Mexico? If you did, try calling the guy who sold it to you. He should be able to help you setting it up. They don't sell these units in Mexico like every day, so they should be willing to help you after you gave them your business.
At least have him go to your place and have him figure it out.

I can't do the same with my Tascam guy... won't bore you with the details, but the point is I can't do that anymore.
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Does any body here has successfully attached a Yamaha DM2000 mixer to the new DP7.11 Update controller in more than 8 faders only ?
this was a really big BUG in all other versions of DP but with the release of this version it is announced that This maintenance release includes expanded control surface and MIDI device configuration options, but none of this maintenance configuration options seems to work with the DM 2000 24 faders and the subsequent layers.
Does anybody can report something about this?
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Hello I was wondering if you ever got that problem resolved. I have Digital Performer and thinking about getting a Tascam DM 3200 and using that to control the volume and mutes, pans, etc. any advice from anyone? Thank you
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Hello,

In my new studio there is a Dm2000:
Does any body here has successfully attached a Yamaha DM2000 mixer to the new DP7.24 Update controller in more than 8 faders only ?

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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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One post in the correct area is sufficient. Thanks.
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Re: Digital Performer 7 and Yamaha DM2000 Please

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Sorry if I double,
I think I made a mistake in the title of the thread I open.
I talk about the Digital connection (madi).
Anyway,
If you have more info.
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