If FM's topic does not seal the deal for ya' let me know and I'll make a brief video for further clarification...no sweat.FMiguelez wrote:Hey, LabMan.labman wrote:cbergm7210 wrote: I host all my VI's in VE Pro, and instead bringing them back into DP on Aux tracks, I bring all of them in via Audio tracks.
Hey CBergm, Can you tell me the routing you are using to do this? Are you setting up specific pairs in VEP itself to return to DP via 'instruments bundles'? Or ....?
I wrote a very detailed description on how to accomplish that in this thread:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=50004
I hope this helps.
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Excellente FM. I will check it out !FMiguelez wrote: Hey, LabMan.
I wrote a very detailed description on how to accomplish that in this thread:
http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=50004
I hope this helps.
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Re: Spectrasonics Omnisphere Multis - Help recording output
FM, I see from your nicely detailed work this quote...
"is that in order use the input monitor button, you have to set the monitoring to 'through plugins' rather than 'through hardware'."
alas. Is that correct, If so, it probably wont work for us. We have to move in and out of video and organic live trking amdist our scoring.
"is that in order use the input monitor button, you have to set the monitoring to 'through plugins' rather than 'through hardware'."
alas. Is that correct, If so, it probably wont work for us. We have to move in and out of video and organic live trking amdist our scoring.
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That's too badlabman wrote:FM, I see from your nicely detailed work this quote...
"is that in order use the input monitor button, you have to set the monitoring to 'through plugins' rather than 'through hardware'."
alas. Is that correct, If so, it probably wont work for us. We have to move in and out of video and organic live trking amdist our scoring.

But if switching between those 2 modes can be quickly changed with a shortcut, and the computer does it fast, perhaps it's still workable?
You could do a similar procedure with regular Aux tracks, but then you'd need a ton of redundant bundles, which can be a showstopper.
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I am a bit confused by this statement, as "hardware monitoring versus monitoring with effects processing" (as stated on page 224 manual DP 7) only addresses a latency issue, not whether you can use the Input Monitor button or not.FMiguelez wrote:That's too badlabman wrote:FM, I see from your nicely detailed work this quote...
"is that in order use the input monitor button, you have to set the monitoring to 'through plugins' rather than 'through hardware'."
alas. Is that correct, If so, it probably wont work for us. We have to move in and out of video and organic live trking amdist our scoring.![]()
But if switching between those 2 modes can be quickly changed with a shortcut, and the computer does it fast, perhaps it's still workable?
You could do a similar procedure with regular Aux tracks, but then you'd need a ton of redundant bundles, which can be a showstopper.
As long as a track has a valid source, it can be listened by routing it to the main's, yes?
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Now I'm confusedcbergm7210 wrote:
I am a bit confused by this statement, as "hardware monitoring versus monitoring with effects processing" (as stated on page 224 manual DP 7) only addresses a latency issue, not whether you can use the Input Monitor button or not.
As long as a track has a valid source, it can be listened by routing it to the main's, yes?

I'm not in front of DP now, but I don't think I could hear the audio returns unless DP was set to Hardware Monitoring.
If this is not so please let me know.
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
---------------------------
"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
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The hardware option is greyed out for me as I do not have any MOTU hardware (I assume?) so perhaps this particular point is a non-issue for this problem?FMiguelez wrote:Now I'm confusedcbergm7210 wrote:
I am a bit confused by this statement, as "hardware monitoring versus monitoring with effects processing" (as stated on page 224 manual DP 7) only addresses a latency issue, not whether you can use the Input Monitor button or not.
As long as a track has a valid source, it can be listened by routing it to the main's, yes?![]()
I'm not in front of DP now, but I don't think I could hear the audio returns unless DP was set to Hardware Monitoring.
If this is not so please let me know.
Through FX is the only option that I have in that dialog box...in other words...

There could be something else going on with lab's issue. Any update there, labman? Or still no go?
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still no-go.
Engineer says we cant toggle between direct hardware and Monitor thru FX due to needing to cut live inst at same time as VI's on occassion which requires Cuemix usage for all the phone sends to different rooms.
Engineer says we cant toggle between direct hardware and Monitor thru FX due to needing to cut live inst at same time as VI's on occassion which requires Cuemix usage for all the phone sends to different rooms.
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labman wrote:still no-go.
Engineer says we cant toggle between direct hardware and Monitor thru FX due to needing to cut live inst at same time as VI's on occassion which requires Cuemix usage for all the phone sends to different rooms.
As per previous posts I do not think this is a relevant issue as monitoring through hardware vs through the inserts is only about latency. There is something else going on why you cannot hear your source. Getting from point A to E with your signal chain is like hooking up plumbing pipe to route water, so something is not right with the path, methinks.
Perhaps you could post a pic from the TO of the tracks so signal chain could be evaluated?
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ooops. Probably wasn't clear enough in my post CB. Engineer meant that if we have to run in 'monitor thru fx' mode then this particular technique cannot be used by us, as Cuemix needs you to be in 'direct hardware' mode.
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No worries, Lab Man.labman wrote:ooops. Probably wasn't clear enough in my post CB. Engineer meant that if we have to run in 'monitor thru fx' mode then this particular technique cannot be used by us, as Cuemix needs you to be in 'direct hardware' mode.
I was just stating that I do not think that the issue of running in hardware mode or not has anything to do with the issue you are having. You should be able to run audio tracks in Input Monitoring mode either way, in other words.
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