Why are plugs all changed in 8?

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:59 pm

And... Where did the old feature go from 7 that allowed you to double click a MAS eq in the insert window and bring up an option to change the MAS eq to more than 2 channel effects? Gone it seems. I'm beginning to feel bad for this guy who bought 8.

Where is the 7 style delay we used to have. Do we have to relearn all this S all over again?

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:45 pm

The delay is still there... Exactly like it used to be. The gui changed a bit but that's it AFAIK.

I'm trying to understand what eq changing feature you're talking about. I hope I've not missed such a great feature all these years?

Do you care to explain it a bit more.

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:53 pm

When you select the standard two band motu eq, not MW, we could bump up to more bands by double clicking the plug window and the other bands would add on merging a the two band and adding on. I don't know how else to explain this. It did not work on this intel machine.

Dwetmaster · Post by **Dwetmaster** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:56 pm

Ah ok. I did not understand you were talking about these eq plug in in particular. I've been using MW for a while now...

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:14 pm

I use the motu standard eq allot because it's frugal overhead leaves cpu room. I don't, don't like change I guess. Why mess with the plug setups? No reason IMO. Just add the new S... and features. I found the bounce pulldown moved as well, why??? I say don't mess with commonly learned stuff. Just improve it. Why should we have to relearn anything. Sorry, must rant a little as this IS the forums purpose as listed.

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:32 am

Timeline wrote:Sorry, must rant a little as this IS the forums purpose as listed.

Hmmm... rants might go here.

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=9

Or those are just "gripes." It's a gray area.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:10 am

If we need an area for grays maybe we should call it Area 51!

daniel.sneed · Post by **daniel.sneed** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:25 am

Timeline wrote:When you select the standard two band motu eq, not MW, we could bump up to more bands by double clicking the plug window and the other bands would add on merging a the two band and adding on. I don't know how else to explain this. It did not work on this intel machine.

I never used this one, for I was not aware of it.
Too bad! Would have loved it.

daniel.sneed · Post by **daniel.sneed** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:27 am

BTW, I miss copy-paste between same DP plug windows.
And I was pretty intensive with this one.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:42 am

You can opt drag plugs.

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:00 am

daniel.sneed wrote:BTW, I miss copy-paste between same DP plug windows.
And I was pretty intensive with this one.

Don't tell me! They lost that too? Option grab, I see MLC- but that was copy.

Yes Mr. Steel, more MAJOR gripe than rant, sorry.

magicd · Post by **magicd** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:37 am

In DP8, if you click on an effect insert for an audio track, you get the Effects Chooser window. This is new. In previous versions of DP, if you clicked on an effect insert, you'd get a menu.

If you'd like to get a menu when you click on the effect insert, Right-click on the insert. You will get a menu. You have control over what shows up in that menu. Stock items in the menu are Audio Plug-In Preferences, Open Effects Chooser, None, Recent Items, and then anything else you'd like to add in.

To add plugs to the right-click menu, open the Effects Chooser window. Plug-ins can be sorted in a variety of ways, including customized folders and categories. Right-click on any folder or category. You'll get a menu that includes the option to Save As Menu Category. For example, if you select the MAS folder and choose Save As Menu Category, all the MAS plugs will show up in the Right-click insert menu.

In DP7 and prior versions, if you have a MOTU Para EQ plug-in instantiated, you can click on the insert menu and choose a different MOTU Para EQ (2 band, 4 band, or 8 band), and the EQ will change the number of bands but keep the same EQ curve. Obviously if you go from a larger number of bands to a smaller number of bands, you will lose the EQ curve created by the missing bands. This behavior has not changed in DP8. If you have a MOTU Para EQ in an insert, you can switch to a different MOTU Para EQ and keep the EQ curve intact. This can be done via the Effects Chooser window or the Right-click insert menu.

Also, I just checked copy and paste between plug-ins, and that appears to be working fine. Make sure the correct plug-in windows are selected when you copy and when you paste.

Dave

Julia123 · Post by **Julia123** » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:12 pm

Timeline:

I use the motu standard eq allot because it's frugal overhead leaves cpu room.

So are you finding the MW EQ is using a lot of CPU? I didn't realize that was one of my culprits on that. How much more have you found that it uses compared to more basic ones?

buzzsmith · Post by **buzzsmith** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:07 am

magicd wrote: Also, I just checked copy and paste between plug-ins, and that appears to be working fine. Make sure the correct plug-in windows are selected when you copy and when you paste.

Dave

Wow. I'll have to recheck this. I'm pretty sure that this is not working on my system.

(10.6.8-DP 8.01)

Thanks...

Buzzy

magicd · Post by **magicd** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:44 am

buzzsmith wrote:
magicd wrote: Also, I just checked copy and paste between plug-ins, and that appears to be working fine. Make sure the correct plug-in windows are selected when you copy and when you paste.

Dave
Wow. I'll have to recheck this. I'm pretty sure that this is not working on my system.

(10.6.8-DP 8.01)

Thanks...

Buzzy

Buzzy - you are correct! Plug-in copy and paste of settings doesn't work in DP 8.01. Fixed in the next update (which is what I tested on). Sorry for the misinformation.

As far as MW EQ goes, it uses additional (but not much) CPU power to display the real-time FFT.

Dave

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