DP 8.01 constantly crashes--Revert back to 8.00..?

[MELTHEDOG13]

Hi all-

I'm getting lots and lots of crashes in DP 8.01. I had no problems with 8.00. Can I revert back to 8.00...? If so, how...??

Thanks,

William

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Have you updated all drivers and repaired permissions? That can solve a lot of 8.01 issues. Seriously.

[kgdrum]

Agreed,repairing permissions seems like a important procedure i do now for resolving any issues and also an important step I always take after software installs and updates.
I haven't updated any drivers in a long time,I use a RME FF800,I checked for a driver update and there hasn't been one in a while,I use a MOTU micro express from 2001,I can't even remember the last time I updated drivers for it maybe 2005? !!!
No problem though from what I can tell.

[MELTHEDOG13]

Oh, yes I have repaired permissions--I repair permissions everyday, sometimes twice in a matter of hours, if DP is crashing a lot. It's unreal how badly things run in 8.01 compared to 8.00 on my machine....

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Reinstall? That's not the behavior most users are reporting.

[mikehalloran]

There is no uninstall but you can use Time Machine to revert to 8.0. This will not affect any of your files. You will be given a choice of keeping or deleting the current version.

Single application restore is possibly the coolest trick that TM performs in my opinion. Way useful when the latest version of anything causes problems with something you already have installed.

>That's not the behavior most users are reporting.<

For nearly all of us, 8.01 was an improvement.

What does Tech Support say when they see the crash reports?

BTW, it's a good idea to list your hardware setup and OS in your signature like the rest of us.

I experienced one crash that is related to a conflict between the latest MOTU usb/FW drivers and my video card. MOTU knows about it but the problem is a known bug in the firmware of my video card and Apple has never fixed it. TechTool Pro has crippled certain functionality over this same Apple bug. Anyway, if I quit MOTU Audio Setup after turning my 828mkII on, the conflict never bothers me - if I leave Audio Setup up, I will crash. Without knowing your hardware and OS, I have no way of knowing if this could be your issue or not.

[malditoyanki]

I'm getting the constant crashes with 8.01 as well just so you know you're not crazy. 8 was great! I suppose we can just reinstall from disc.

And yes I did permissions/driver etc. Just a weird thing I guess.

[Radiogal]

Okay. I saw this same problem someone having on the MOTU Digital Performer Facebook site.
I asked him if he used pirated plugins.. answer was "Yes".

Don´t say it´s like this right now in this topic here (as I truly believe all MN members are non-pirates)
....... but just FYI and to all others having problems with DP crashing,
pirated software/plugins ARE a huge problem for DP. It will make DP unstable!

Thing is, if you have installed pirated software, you´ll need to reinstall your whole system to get rid of all these pirate files..
Just deleting them will not help.

I helped a fellow DP´er (and former plug-in pirate) with this problem.
His DP problems were solved first after these plug-ins were totally gone through a reinstallation of the Mac.

Just my 2 cents.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

No pirated ANYTHING on this system, and no crashes - not one in a couple of weeks now, all in 64 bit. ☺ I'm sorry for those with problems and hope they heed your words, RG. Of course, if some folks deleted all their pirated stuff they would have empty hard drives.

Okay. I saw this same problem someone having on the MOTU Digital Performer Facebook site.
I asked him if he used pirated plugins.. answer was "Yes".

Don´t say it´s like this right now in this topic here (as I truly believe all MN members are non-pirates)
....... but just FYI and to all others having problems with DP crashing,
pirated software/plugins ARE a huge problem for DP. It will make DP unstable!

Thing is, if you have installed pirated software, you´ll need to reinstall your whole system to get rid of all these pirate files..
Just deleting them will not help.

I helped a fellow DP´er (and former plug-in pirate) with this problem.
His DP problems were solved first after these plug-ins were totally gone through a reinstallation of the Mac.

Just my 2 cents.

[malditoyanki]

All legit here and incessant crashes with both 8 and 8.01

I wonder if having 7 also installed is an issue. Either way I can't abandon 7 in the middle of this film.

8 will be great! someday...

[kgdrum]

All legit here and incessant crashes with both 8 and 8.01

I wonder if having 7 also installed is an issue. Either way I can't abandon 7 in the middle of this film.

8 will be great! someday...

Well if you're going back and forth between DP7 and DP8 that might actually be the root of the problem.
I seem to remember when a few users initially did this some preferences had to be changed.
I think for the most part the users who are not having problems with DP8 have stayed in 8 and not gone back to DP7,it also seems like users who have stayed in DP6 64bit and not switched back and forth between 32bit and 64bit are having less issues generally speaking.

[nk_e]

Things were rock solid with me until recently. Now I get a lot of spontaneous crashes because of Kontakt. May have something to do with the latest Kontakt 5.1 update....?

It's the weirdest thing. DP is just sitting there with nothing going on then "poof!". Gone and a dialogue box offering to report the crash caused by Kontakt.

Yep. Updated to 8.0.1. Permissions checked, Kontakt memory server off, etc.

There's a thread on this somewhere. Off to find it....

[malditoyanki]

All legit here and incessant crashes with both 8 and 8.01

I wonder if having 7 also installed is an issue. Either way I can't abandon 7 in the middle of this film.

8 will be great! someday...

Well if you're going back and forth between DP7 and DP8 that might actually be the root of the problem.
I seem to remember when a few users initially did this some preferences had to be changed.
I think for the most part the users who are not having problems with DP8 have stayed in 8 and not gone back to DP7,it also seems like users who have stayed in DP6 64bit and not switched back and forth between 32bit and 64bit are having less issues generally speaking.

This is just for the record as we dig into this:

Not switching back and forth...rebuilt my template from bottom up using DP 8. I only went back to DP7 after the crashes every 15 minutes. At least DP 7 opened up my DP8 templates easily! Back to work!

[Shooshie]

DP 8.00 had some serious bugs. I would not return to that. IF you have to downgrade, go to DP7.24.

Many of us have had no problem with DP 8.01, I suggest you try to find what is causing those crashes. It's not DP8.01 per-se.

[mikehalloran]

Radiogal wrote:
Okay. I saw this same problem someone having on the MOTU Digital Performer Facebook site.
I asked him if he used pirated plugins.. answer was "Yes".

Don´t say it´s like this right now in this topic here (as I truly believe all MN members are non-pirates)
....... but just FYI and to all others having problems with DP crashing,
pirated software/plugins ARE a huge problem for DP. It will make DP unstable!

It's not just pirated plugs. Unfortunately, it means that we all need to learn how to read crash reports.

I had major problems when I updated to OS 10.8.2 from 10.8.1. This was caused by a freeware, Bresink Temperature Monitor, and a commercial program, Spin Doctor from Roxio.