DP 8 feels sluggish compared to 7.24

[blue]

That's not the correct shortcut to close just effects windows.

Ah, now I know why I never used a key command to close ALL plugin windows. Because I never realized there was one. Thanks for the heads up.

For those who want to know, the command is "shift-control-command w." A bit of a handful, but certainly better than closing plugs one at a time.

It IS reassignable. If you find yourself using it a lot, maybe you have a spare F key on your keyboard. I have one of those keyboards that goes up to F19, so I have some frequently used shortcuts set up on those upper F keys.

Yeah, I probably will reassign it so I can keep my right hand on the mouse.

[scstock]

how do you toggle between 64 bit and 32bit or is it auto?

From the Finder select Digital Performer and press cmd-I or Get Info; check (or un-check) Open in 32-bit mode

[tommypenngotti]

how do you toggle between 64 bit and 32bit or is it auto?

From the Finder select Digital Performer and press cmd-I or Get Info; check (or un-check) Open in 32-bit mode

so tried checking and opening in 32 bit , didn't make any difference, still slightly sluggish . Like I said before with my 2 cinema displays

left side = transport , track window, seq editor

right side = mixer

if I minimize either side and leave up the opposite all is super fast and snappy .....

bring up both sides , slight latency

[blackdot]

Has anyone discovered a correlation between multiple monitor setups and the slow DP8 issues? It might be interesting to see who is and who isn't having the issue and how many monitors they are using in correlation with which video card. Seems like some (like the above poster) have mentioned improvements in graphics response when minimizing DP in one display when using a two display setup.

Maybe one of you guys experiencing the problem could start a thread to mine some data.

Just throwing it out there...

[tommypenngotti]

Has anyone discovered a correlation between multiple monitor setups and the slow DP8 issues? It might be interesting to see who is and who isn't having the issue and how many monitors they are using in correlation with which video card. Seems like some (like the above poster) have mentioned improvements in graphics response when minimizing DP in one display when using a two display setup.

Maybe one of you guys experiencing the problem could start a thread to mine some data.

Just throwing it out there...

Just got this email from Magic Dave at Motu :

Matthias,

I have no idea what is going on with your system, but certainly placement of windows on multiple monitors should have nothing to do with latency.

Audio monitoring patch through latency is determined by the Buffer Size in the Audio Hardware Driver window (Setup menu>Configure Audio System).

Dave

[Tomas E]

If DP 8 is running it takes about 30 seconds for the computer to go to sleep after selecting it in the apple menu. That's never happened before.

[tommypenngotti]

ok so here's the deal - (2) cinema displays -

I move all the DP 8 windows to one side and it snaps into fast movement - do I have a pref ?? Do I need a faster vid card??

Graphics one NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512 MB accepting both monitors

16MB Ram
2.66
Mac Pro Quad Core Intel
DP 8

[James Steele]

So you have TWO cards, right? Shot in the dark, but how is the card for the second monitor configured in the Expansion Card Utility, or whatever it's called? Do you have both cards set for the maximum speed? Your primary is set to 16x most likely... what is the second one set for?

[tommypenngotti]

I have ONE Nvidia Geforce GT 120 512MB card installed as of now accepting both cinema displays , that may be the problem -?

I have another Radeon ATI vid card not installed? Should I pop that in or buy another identical NVIDIA card?

thanks !

[Dwetmaster]

Can somebody try to "throw" a soundbite by CTL - dragging it and then releasing? To me the Scrolling of the SB is indeed REALLY slow.

[James Steele]

I have ONE Nvidia Geforce GT 120 512MB card installed as of now accepting both cinema displays , that may be the problem -?

I have another Radeon ATI vid card not installed? Should I pop that in or buy another identical NVIDIA card?

thanks !

Sorry, I misunderstood you.

[Dan Worley]

Can somebody try to "throw" a soundbite by CTL - dragging it and then releasing? To me the Scrolling of the SB is indeed REALLY slow.

Yeah, that's much slower than what it used to be. Before it was high-speed, just about instantaneous. Now it's slo-mo. Can't say it really bothers me, and in some ways it feels more controlled, but it is slow. Don't know if that's on purpose or by accident.

[zed]

I should say, I never have more than one VI instantiated at a time, ever,
and I always immediately record the VI's output as audio and then remove it. So I'm no authority on VI-heavy projects.

Wow. I am really surprised to hear this, because this doesn't allow for easy changes later. I certainly can't argue with your results. I should probably learn to work more in this way, but I am always wanting to leave things in format in which they can be tweeked later. I'm probably shooting myself in the foot in some ways--but then so may you be sometimes.

Your method involves real commitment... but I am reminded of recording in the days of Sgt. Pepper. Being committed, bouncing a track and moving on can result in great achievements, and potentially more interesting results.

I'm not sure if "option-command W" ever worked on just plugins before DP8. I'll have to check. I know it doesn't work now in DP8. For now I'll just have to close plugin windows one at a time. I'm hoping this was just on oversight and not deliberate.

The easiest way to close all windows (at least for me) is to simply use the keyboard command for your current Window Set. Window Sets automatically close all plugin windows, so the command will instantly close plugins and knock any windows that are out of place back into their intended positions.

[bayswater]

I should say, I never have more than one VI instantiated at a time, ever,
and I always immediately record the VI's output as audio and then remove it. So I'm no authority on VI-heavy projects.

Wow. I am really surprised to hear this, because this doesn't allow for easy changes later. I certainly can't argue with your results.

You can have it both ways if you keep the VI in a V-rack. Turn it off after rendering, and mute the MIDI. It takes no resources, and you can always go back and turn it on again.

The easiest way to close all windows (at least for me) is to simply use the keyboard command for your current Window Set.

I'm having a 'why didn't I think of that' moment. Great workaround.

[Steve Steele]

One sluggish problem that drives me nuts is that if I scroll the mixer (using the magic mouse, or track pad), to find a channel (and I have maybe 100 or so channels), if I've swiped the mouse, say 8 - 10 times, there is nothing I can do to stop DP from following all of my swipes. Every move I make is buffered, so it just moves through the list.

So, let's say I know that the channel i want to get to is a good 40 tracks to the right, I'll swipe about 5 times, and sometimes it will pass the channel up. At that point I can't hit cmnd-period, or anything else to get the action to quit. I can't stop playback either. DP8 is unresponsive until it's done. DP7 didn't so that. It seems like, in general, cmmd-period works less and less these days in the OS.

So if I've swiped 5 times right, twice left and once right (a common action with this mouse and track pad), I have lost control over DP8 until all swipes have completed. This wasn't the case in 7.24. I could press the mouse in a neutral space and the scrolling would stop and I could continue. Not so with DP8. At least for me.