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Can´t crash DP

Post by Radiogal »

On my new Mac Pro I seem not being able to crash DP whatever I throw at it.
It feels a lill creapy as I´m starting getting used to this rock steady stability.
A DP crash would probably scare me to death ;)
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Re: Can´t crash DP

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I can tell by reading this forum that regular crashing seems to be an accepted part of life with DP, at least for some: but for me it's always been very stable since the introduction of OSX. At least, it was until I installed Lion. But aside from an odd problem in which it wouldn't quit cleanly, and would sort of "crash on quit" (a problem that didn't affect work flow), it's been amazingly stable for many years, and through two MacPros (one dual G5 and now an 8-core Intel).
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Re: Can´t crash DP

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I'm running into the same thing, RG. Best version of DP ever for me. I'm afraid to add plugins or change anything. It's been crash free since installing 7.24. Knock on wood.

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Re: Can´t crash DP

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I don´t think you need to worry about installing new plugins.
I recently bought and installed quite a few new plugins like the VCC, McDSP, Abbey Road, Melda and the Dont Crack V.I.P bundle. I also upgraded Waves twice to the two newest versions. Eventhough I´m doing intense editings and run plenty of havey duty projects, as I stated earlier, I´m unable to crash DP.
I´m in SL and will stay put in this safety zone. Fingers crossed. :)
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Re: Can´t crash DP

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I have some old (ancient in Mac years) plugs that would crash DP 7 were I foolish enough to install them.

Come to think of it, maybe not if I were running on OS 10.4.x on my legacy G4. Hmmmm... I don't have DP installed on it - never did. I went from a Beige G3 (great machine in its day) to a G5 (ditto) to my iMac as a production machine.
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RG, you know we have the same system. I tested Lion on an external drive with no problems. I am now running Lion on my internal HD and smooth sailing. No push from me for Lion. 10.6.8. is rock solid. And Lion will only get better with time.
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I've crashed the newest version once, but IMO since 7 it's ridiculously stable.
The strangest thing I get is every time I close DP7 I get a dialog after it closes saying DP crashed would I like to file a report? I'm going to assume I have a buggy AU in there somewhere. :lol:
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RG, I'm happy to hear of your stable system.
I have the same situation here.
Seems too good to be true.
All is well
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I got a few crashes from trying to load to many scripted instruments in M5-3 when I pushed the 32gig limit to far. The scripted instruments are very large files. I did some things to fix it so it is all good now. Other than that 7x has been rock solid, unlike 6. Oh good for you girl as you do not need crashing when recording clients.
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Re: Can´t crash DP

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SEems like I'm very good at it instead :lol:

Hi there!


I'm having sooo many crashes, i just can't work

It's true , I have a few VIs open (Electric keys, BPM, NI Kontakt Player) and a few plugins operating (in real time, no pre-rendering), but this is crazy...it's been going on for a while (with 7.2 then 7.3).

I did all the optimization things u suggested (Plugins in real time and latest software for my Traveler) in another thread for DP to no avail , at least for now!

Any suggestions?

It just crashes during playback and so. Hardware driver is 1024, Multiplier 2X, medium setup, so it shouldn't be a problem...




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Try setting your Multiplier to 1.
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sergiococchi wrote:SEems like I'm very good at it instead :lol:

Hi there!


I'm having sooo many crashes, i just can't work

It's true , I have a few VIs open (Electric keys, BPM, NI Kontakt Player) and a few plugins operating (in real time, no pre-rendering), but this is crazy...it's been going on for a while (with 7.2 then 7.3).

I did all the optimization things u suggested (Plugins in real time and latest software for my Traveler) in another thread for DP to no avail , at least for now!

Any suggestions?

It just crashes during playback and so. Hardware driver is 1024, Multiplier 2X, medium setup, so it shouldn't be a problem...




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When you're using virtual instruments in real time it's very likely a bad VI that's causing the problem. The other problem could be a simple CPU spike, I have a free program called Menu Meters that adds a CPU meter to the Menu bar, this can help to find out if it's a spike.
Kontakt Player could easily be the problem, that would be the first instrument I would replace and see if things stabilize. <-- also check for updates on ALL your plug ins and hardware drivers. I did this yesterday and found new drivers for my Logitech Mouse and RME Fireface, the Fireface also had a firmware update I didn't know about. A week ago I found a new update to Clockworks for my MOTU MTP/AV and of course the DP7 update. :)

It's also not a bad idea to keep the old driver around in case the update breaks something. Logitech screwed the pooch this way with an updated mouse driver that had me blaming Ableton Live for bad MIDI Beat Clock sync to a keyboard that sent sync. It was such a specific bug that Live MIDI timing sync wise would get hosed by the mouse driver, but DP was fine.

Just to really make sure it's a AU virtual instrument problem replace everything with DPs built in plug ins at roughly the same CPU use (unless your CPU is too high to begin with, check that first), and see if DP crashes. None of this is 'fun', but it's very very likely a third party Audio Unit that's causing your issues and it's up to you to isolate the bad egg. :twisted:
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i get crashes with 7.24 but it could be Ve Pro related or when i have too many plugs. I wish i was as stable as you guys... mentally.
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Radiogal wrote:On my new Mac Pro I seem not being able to crash DP whatever I throw at it.
It feels a lill creapy as I´m starting getting used to this rock steady stability.
I'm sorry you're experiencing these nasty issues, RadioGal...

I recommend you contact MOTU tech support and DEMAND they fix this pronto! :mrgreen:

DP is also working extremely well for me too :)
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+1 on menu meters, it just sits in your top bar and tells you what is going on.
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