Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
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- buzzsmith
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Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
Just noticed a few days ago that my studio Mac started acting randomly sluggish.
I'd get the beach ball in DP and an attempt to save to my less than 6 months old external FW backup (Iomega® UltraMax Single Desktop Hard Drive 1 TB) would give me an error message. Even dragging a little .gif to it would be rejected as would trying to eject it from the desktop.
I shut down the computer, turned the drive off and replaced it's cable.
Rebooted and everything seemed fine, except Apple's Disk Utility said it needed repair which it did judging from the progress list.
Still noticing, on occasion, that I'm having some issues. I don't think it's a FireWire issue, but this drive in particular. It seems to want to power down (sleep?), and I have not checked that in any preferences. Nothing is supposed to power down, ever.
I'm presuming that I may have a bad drive...just curious why it seems to affect the entire system.
Thanks...
Buzzy
I'd get the beach ball in DP and an attempt to save to my less than 6 months old external FW backup (Iomega® UltraMax Single Desktop Hard Drive 1 TB) would give me an error message. Even dragging a little .gif to it would be rejected as would trying to eject it from the desktop.
I shut down the computer, turned the drive off and replaced it's cable.
Rebooted and everything seemed fine, except Apple's Disk Utility said it needed repair which it did judging from the progress list.
Still noticing, on occasion, that I'm having some issues. I don't think it's a FireWire issue, but this drive in particular. It seems to want to power down (sleep?), and I have not checked that in any preferences. Nothing is supposed to power down, ever.
I'm presuming that I may have a bad drive...just curious why it seems to affect the entire system.
Thanks...
Buzzy
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
Can't help much, just sharing.
My new 1To external drive brings many unexpected behaviors when connected thru FW: no boot, mac hangings, HD disappearings, app hangings, but all is fine when connected thru usb.
It's already been warranty serviced once, but will be twice... or more!
My new 1To external drive brings many unexpected behaviors when connected thru FW: no boot, mac hangings, HD disappearings, app hangings, but all is fine when connected thru usb.
It's already been warranty serviced once, but will be twice... or more!
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
I'm trying USB, now. Just had a freeze a few minutes ago, but it was so frozen that I could not open the iomega to see what it was showing and if might have been the culprit.
I was simply trying to trash an item from the desktop when it froze.
Backing up data VERY soon from this drive.
Buzzy
I was simply trying to trash an item from the desktop when it froze.
Backing up data VERY soon from this drive.
Buzzy
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
Back it up now! That drive is probably on it's way out. Good luck
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
Do you happen to have some sort of camera on the same FW bus? There can be bandwidth contention leading to file corruption on FW drives in that situation, even if the camera is inactive. The original iSight was a good example.
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Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
No camera on this Xeon. However I will double check to make sure iSight is inactive. I believe that's an option.
Some quick research indicates that there are complaints about the power supply to these drives.
I have everything I want to back up in a folder. First thing in the morning.
Buzzy
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Some quick research indicates that there are complaints about the power supply to these drives.
I have everything I want to back up in a folder. First thing in the morning.
Buzzy
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Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
Have you tried popping the drive out of its enclosure and running it in your tower?
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Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
I may have the terminology wrong but is it a slide and plug SATA drive like the 3 I have within the Mac?mikehalloran wrote:Have you tried popping the drive out of its enclosure and running it in your tower?
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Yamaha C7 Conservatory Grand
Hammond B-3 / Leslie 145
Focal Twin6 Be(s)
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Re: Firewire Drive brings Mac to it's knees?
If a newer enclosure, it should have a 3.5" SATA drive inside. This will pop into one of your bays.buzzsmith wrote:I may have the terminology wrong but is it a slide and plug SATA drive like the 3 I have within the Mac?mikehalloran wrote:Have you tried popping the drive out of its enclosure and running it in your tower?
If the internal drive is PATA/IDE, then no.
At 1T, I would expect an SATA drive inside.
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