Major OSX 10.6.5 Bug Workaround (was: Selection Problem…)

[n2mpujack]

Correction to what I said earlier (and please pass me a dish of crow, thank you). While doing some heavy retouching work in Photoshop CS5 I've run into this bug. I'm working in the 64 bit version of CS5 with my Mac Mini setup to boot by default into 64 bit. Does anybody know if the hack works in 64 bit?

[csansom]

Having been the one to find the hack, I've now found another issue that was bugging me and is fixed by it... and I'm amazed at how long it's taken for it to occur to me!

I was having a problem where sometimes, when launching, DP would fail to load the audio driver. I could always load it without problems after launch from Setup -> Audio System. It's only in the last couple of days that it's occurred to me that maybe DP has an option to launch without the audio driver if you hold a modifier key down (duh!) - I just tried it, and it's shift. So now, just run the hack first and bingo! It launches properly every time.

Does anybody know if the hack works in 64 bit?

I don't know, but I don't see why not - all it's doing is sending a bunch of key up messages. I can’t imagine it could do any harm to try it anyway.

[rukidding]

I'm in 10.6.7 and have a similar problem. For instance I can't type values in the notation window. It's just "broken"! I downloaded the hack program but IT doesn't even run. What are the specifics as far as running the ap and fixing the problem? Thanks

[rumorcontrol]

I just picked up a new MAC PRO and switched everything over from an older machine running DP 5.12 (which worked flawlessly for years). As I started working in DP 7 I thought, "wow...this is running too smoothly". And then I tried to Freeze tracks and found that I couldn't select the tracks I wanted to freeze because it was only allowing me to select EVERYTHING. I was about to post this and oddly enough the very first post I read is dealing with what I assume to be this exact issue.
I do a lot of orchestral score which often requires me to freeze lots of specific tracks across many VI's. This is a nightmare. Having to freeze tracks one at a time or having to rearrange large numbers of tracks so they're sitting next to each other in order to select only the ones i want to freeze will quadruple the time it takes to freeze 30 or 40 tracks.
I'm going to try the hack you posted. Man I hope it works...if not this new mac will be a new doorstop!!
Thanks for posting the hack!
In an unrelated note I'm noticing that when I freeze any MIDI tracks in PLAY there are lots of dropouts and clipped audio.
ACK...
RC

[rumorcontrol]

Hey I downloaded the hack but it doesn't seem to actually install.....is it supposed to install????
Would you mind explaining the process? I'm not understanding this.
Thanks
RC

[mjc]

Once you've downloded the program, just sit it somewhere handy (I keep the app on the Desktop in the bottom right, and for my setup that means it's visible 'behind' any other open application). Just occurred to me I could have popped it into the Dock!

When you get any of the suspect glitching behaviours, just double click on the app and that's it! Nothing obvious happens. The file doesn't 'open'. It's just executing some commands in the background. However you will have re-set the errant behaviour. Doesn't hurt to run the app every now and then just in case.

And on the Bad News front: I've just had a re-occurrence of the cursor 'selecting' everything as I scrolled down a web page. I'm running Lion on the machine in question. The keyboard hack fixes the prob. It seems that Apple hasn't yet!

Mike

[greeny]

I wish to reinstall an older version of Mac OS X (SL) on my hard drive; unfortunately when I attempt to do so the following message appears:
"Mac OS X Update can't be installed on this disk. This update requires Mac OS X version 10.6.4 or earlier."
Mac OS X 10.6.8 is presently on my drive but because of graphic and selection problems encountered in DP 7.2.3 and various plugins I wish to return a much earlier OSX version.
Can I reinstall from the physical DVD installer disk (v.10.6.1) which came with the computer ? Without losing all my Plugins Authorizations and other important documents?

[gseibert]

Is this bug fixed in Lion? If so, that might be a reason to migrate.

[bayswater]

There are options to revert to earlier versions of OS X. I think the "archive and install" option is one of them. A quick google will bring up the relevant articles on the Apple site. I don't think you can count on not losing some authorizations, but you won't lose anything else. Backup anyway.

What specific problem are you seeing? I use 10.6.8 and DP 7.2.4 and it is as solid as any combination I can remember. Didn't 10.6.5 have some CoreAudio problem?

[greeny]

My specific problems with the combination of DP 7.2.3 and Mac OS 10.6.8 is that the graphic response to a few specific "selection commands" performed with the mouse are not properly executed. For instance selecting a track color from the colors palette is unresponsive, the cursor simply disappears rendering it very difficult to accurately pick a specific color. Another case: in the Tracks Window selecting patches or default patches for external MIDI Instruments, scrolling through the lists the mouse acts like an eraser and the list is gradually erased as the mouse moves from patch name to another. Another one: In my TC Powercore's plugins windows the display of the many adjustment buttons litteraly doubles itself as if one looks at it cross-eyed and consequently these same controllers become unresponsive. Sometimes for unexplainable reasons I can't select instruments in the sequence editor sidebar window - I have to close the window, re-open it - that usually does the trick, but not always.

I've removed a few preferences, repaired permissions, re-installed DP 7.2.3 and the latest audio drivers for my 828mk3 but none of these steps have changed anything.

I shall check out what you wrote tomorrow, meaning I'll see whether there is a possibility of going back to the OSX version which came with the machine - I believe it was version 10.6.3 on the installer-DVD - re-installing the OS without losing my precious authorizations.
What a drag - everything was working so smoothly in OSX 10.6.3 and then.... I succumbed to the temptation to install the latest OS and see what happens!

Thanks for replying, there's still hope! Why doesn't Apple react? I mean it seems this problem has been around for a while and many users are suffering.

Cheers,
Greeny

[bayswater]

I can't comment on the powercore, but I seriously doubt the other problems are associated with 10.6.8 even if they did appear about the time you updated the OS to that version. I do the things you mentioned constantly and never see these problems. Have you tried it with DP 7.2.4? If you install this update, you can still launch 7.2.3 or any other previous version.

Most agree with your conclusion though: once you have stable setup that does what you need, leave it alone.

[greeny]

I've downloaded DP 7.2.4 and will install it tomorrow and give it a go.... I'm curious.
Thanks for the tip.

Greeny

[greeny]

Installed DP7.2.4 and it makes no difference. The problem is still there. I wish there was a way to get back to Mac OS 10.6.1, the version I have on the DVD's which came with the machine without having to go through all the software authorization and configuration hassles.

[mjc]

I think you guys are posting about a different issue than the one this thread is addressing - specifically the cursor 'accidentally' 'selecting' an area of the screen when scrolling.

Start a new thread?

[Shooshie]

Wow. I reread this thread today. I'd forgotten all about it, and just a year and a half ago, this made my life miserable to the point that I took a sabbatical for a while. The weird thing is that I even forgot why I did that. I mean, things move on. Apple updated its system, and the problem stopped. When it messes with Adobe, you can be pretty sure they'll get on it. So, now the problem is gone, and I've been back working in DP for some time now, and since I don't have any problems, I forget that I ever DID have a problem. Of course, it was Apple's problem, not MOTU's, but the result is the same: you have to give in and quit bashing your head against the wall until it's over.

So, things are good. The world's an ok place after all.

Shoosh