"Set Bite Gain" What on earth is it doing?

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Re: "Set Bite Gain" What on earth is it doing?

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James Steele wrote:Right... because you're entering a value, not a mathematical operation from what I understand. If your bite gain was -3.00 and you click and type in +4.00 it's now SET to +4.00. You've in essence added 7.00 db of gain going from -3 to +4. At least that's what I am understanding.
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It´s SET bite gain. If you "0" it, you get you original level. So, as Mr.Steele said you always SET a new value regardless of the current value.

Also somebody asked: Bite Gain is pre insertion point, Bite volume is post.
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zaratero wrote:Also somebody asked: Bite Gain is pre insertion point, Bite volume is post.
Thanks for this one Zaratero!
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please please mr motu - can we have bite gain maths - make it 11 louder - make these clips 11 louder,,, that will make PT'er's even greener!

bite gain rocks!
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martian wrote:please please mr motu - can we have bite gain maths - make it 11 louder - make these clips 11 louder,,, that will make PT'er's even greener!

bite gain rocks!
It would be a nice feature. Also a "Normalize Bite Gain" feature too. But both as a new shortcuts, I like the current dialog box of "Set Bite Gain".
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daniel.sneed wrote:Thanks for this one Zaratero!
No need, you´re welcome.

I´d like to edit graphically the bite gain just as the bite volume.
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I use Set Bite Gain all the time!!! I use it a lot when editing and mixing. I even made a user short cut command for it :) It´s so much faster than the volume automation and it let´s me set the track O/P levels to my mixing console in a very quick and easy way. I prefere it over the TRIM plugin for gain staging. AND I love the fact the audio wave is showing it´s volume. It´s so much easier to set volumes just by the graphics :)
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yep! its awesome for dialog premixing- especially with OMF sourced clips..

But trimming them (level wise) after is a pain unless you merge - but then merging has a lot of drawbacks unless you are completely sure...
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Paging Magic Dave, this brings up an interesting question - we know the trim plug uses the full dynamic range of the 32bit float resolution. What's the resolution used when using Set Bite Gain/Set Bite Volume instead...?

My guess is the same, since it's a non-destructive process, but would love some verification here... Thanks!

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Kubi wrote:Paging Magic Dave, this brings up an interesting question - we know the trim plug uses the full dynamic range of the 32bit float resolution. What's the resolution used when using Set Bite Gain/Set Bite Volume instead...?

My guess is the same, since it's a non-destructive process, but would love some verification here... Thanks!

:D
I´d say that it is floating point too, you can clip the graph and pull down the fader and it won´t distort. :? How tricky is digital audio, ain´t it? I only seem to lengthen the "for check" list for years, even though I sometimes do check things :).


Bite Gain rules for OMF material and is a must in my workflow to keep the compressors running smooth.
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zaratero wrote: I´d say that it is floating point too, you can clip the graph and pull down the fader and it won´t distort.
That's proof enough for me...
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zaratero wrote: Also somebody asked: Bite Gain is pre insertion point, Bite volume is post.
Er......what's this mean exactly? :? Not sure what "insertion point" is.
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gavspen wrote:
zaratero wrote: Also somebody asked: Bite Gain is pre insertion point, Bite volume is post.
Er......what's this mean exactly? :? Not sure what "insertion point" is.
Just what the words say : Along the signal path, bite gain is placed just before any mixer insert, while bite volume is placed just after mixer inserts. That is to say, if you play a soundbite, you'll hear, and see, bite gain action while setting parameters in an insert window, but not bite volume action, which happens later in the signal path. Hope this makes sense, gavspen.
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daniel.sneed wrote: Hope this makes sense, gavspen.
Yes it does. Thanks
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It's an absolute value. Think of it like applying the trim control in a mixer track. Whatever you set it at is what it is.
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