EastWest Hollywood Strings & DP 7.12

[rosindabow]

Hello. I'm having some speed difficulties with the new library from EastWest: Hollywood Strings. It's taking forever to load patches and then if I need to re-boot, it has to re-load all over again. Would increasing the amount of memory I have in my Mac (currently 8Gbs) do anything to help? I think that EastWest's Play only uses 4Gbs max but maybe between DP and Play more memory might ease the strain? Any other tips? I have Hollywood Strings on it's own 1 TB hard drive, DP is on the internal drive, and my file is on yet another internal hard drive. By the way, the library sounds amazing ... just not digging the start up times and the little hiccups.

[Macrozonaris]

Using Play unfortunately increases the amount of times you have to reboot your computer. In any event, putting the HS on a SSD drive will probably help a lot. Maybe try using Bidule as a plugin host could help also, at least then you wouldn't have to reload the Play every time you open a new project.

[rosindabow]

I just looked at Bidule - very interesting. Do you use it as a plugin, standalone, or in rewire mode? I was searching around for a clear method of how to hook up everything with DP but couldn't find anything. Seems to be a bit confusing and right now I need solutions, not more problems. If you know of a simple, easy-to-understand setup guide, that would truly help me decide if I should purchase this. Thanks for the lead.

[Macrozonaris]

I just looked at Bidule - very interesting. Do you use it as a plugin, standalone, or in rewire mode? I was searching around for a clear method of how to hook up everything with DP but couldn't find anything. Seems to be a bit confusing and right now I need solutions, not more problems. If you know of a simple, easy-to-understand setup guide, that would truly help me decide if I should purchase this. Thanks for the lead.

I use it in rewire mode. I wrote about my old setup and Bidule in my blog: http://www.nnsense.com/2009/12/my-orche ... plate.html. It's not written as tutorial, but it has pictures so maybe you get the idea

[rosindabow]

I also want to run everything inside the one host computer. CAn that be done via rewire and the Bidule plugin? Or do you run it as a standalone, route the other MIDI into and out of DP via Bidule and aux inputs?

[Macrozonaris]

I also want to run everything inside the one host computer. CAn that be done via rewire and the Bidule plugin? Or do you run it as a standalone, route the other MIDI into and out of DP via Bidule and aux inputs?

Yes absolutely.

[cccppprrr]

I would recommend you host Play inside of Vienna Ensemble Pro and you use DP to host VEPro. Then DP will remember all of your VEPro settings (and by default all of your Play setup). I have personally found Play not to play nice with DP but it doesn't seem to have any problems with the new version of VEPro. Getting Play outside of DP (hosted in VEPro) will open up a lot more memory for DP which really helps keep things stable. DP really does not like to get close to the memory threshold and when you do you will pay with unstable performance. Plogue Bidule is another option but I have personally found it to be very cumbersome to set up. VEPro is much more graceful and you can also successfully host VI's like Omnisphere and Trillian in VEPro (both of which are huge memory hogs) again freeing up RAM for DP.

[rosindabow]

I didn't realize that you could purchase VEPro without buying an instrument. I do own one of their smaller libraries ... I just purchased Bidule, it's running but not so well. Is VEPro that much better? Easier to setup, more elegant? Thanks

[doodles]

I didn't realize that you could purchase VEPro without buying an instrument. I do own one of their smaller libraries ... I just purchased Bidule, it's running but not so well. Is VEPro that much better? Easier to setup, more elegant? Thanks

VE Pro is a completely different thing from the individual instruments. It's aimed specifically for hosting Vienna Instruments and other Virtual Instruments outside of your sequencer, making it incredibly useful for hosting templates, etc, so loading up samples in the morning, then never having to load them up again. (I've had it on for the last 3 weeks on a separate computer!).

Different people use it for different reasons, but it does mean that you can access way more RAM than DP can! Can't remember how much it is, but well worth the cost.