DP 7.1 + Bidule + Jack OSX help please!

[Kreepyj]

Hi all, I'm hoping someone can give me an idiot proof step by step tutorial on how I can achieve this set up. I've been using Bidule in rewire mode but I've just learned that rewire can only access a single core of my MacPro, which explains the poor performance I've been experiencing.

For some reason JackOSX won't recognize Bidule when it opens, but it seems to see DP OK.

Am I missing a step?

Once I get this first step happening, I'm hoping the rest will work itself out

Thanks in advance.

[jroadrage]

I've been using Bidule in rewire mode but I've just learned that rewire can only access a single core of my MacPro, which explains the poor performance I've been experiencing.

I know that the single core restriction of the rewire spec should limit Bidule to a single core but in practice there does seem to be some cpu distribution going on under the hood. I've seen this from other users as well reflected in respectable voice counts and Activity Monitor readings. I use Bidule only for my PLAY libs and I get performance that can't be limited to a single core.

[Tripi]

Few things to do: make sure you start Jack Pilot before opening DP and Bidule. In DP's hardware settings, select your main soundcard, hold shift, select Jack, and hit ok. In Bidule, make sure you have Jack as the master output.

If you go to Jack Pilot, open the routing button, select Bidule under "Send Ports" and then double click on DP under "Receive Ports". It should turn red. That's about it. I would suggest saving a routing setup in Jack Pilot once it all works. Much easier to load that in the future.

[Gabe S.]

I've been using Bidule in rewire mode but I've just learned that rewire can only access a single core of my MacPro, which explains the poor performance I've been experiencing.

Hi.

I've also heard that ReWire only uses one core as well, but in my experience, I don't see that on my 8core MacPro....I've had Bidule playing over 300 stereo notes via several instances of Kontakt all ReWiring back to a very busy DP session, and I was watching Activity Monitor, and all 8 cores of my MacPro were just humming along equally. No single core was working more than any other.

Interestingly, most people I hear that from are Logic users......my uninformed guess is that Logic handles ReWire differently than DP.

A year ago, when I was testing Bidule's viability for myself, I made a couple videos to show my experiences.

In the first, I loaded up a bunch of kontakt instances with my patches and I just slammed on the keyboard playing as many notes as I could find to play at the same time. I think at one point, this cacophony was up over 800 notes. I encountered no problems from Bidule, ReWire or DP. Again, this isn't a piece of music, but there are a heck of a lot of notes playing all at once, and Activity Monitor shows no single core doing all the work.

http://www.epicscore.com/online/cpu.mov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In this second video, I was playing three instances of Kontakt live from Bidule into DP via ReWire and the video shows the note counters for each instance. At some points, it gets over 300 notes, and you can see the Activity Monitor is just humming along without any problems.

http://www.epicscore.com/online/Plogue- ... -notes.mov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyway, my point is that even though people keep talking about how ReWire slams one core and is therefore not useful, I just don't have that experience. I find Bidule and ReWire to be VERY efficient. When I have a session slammed full of memory in DP, I turn to Bidule when I want to keep adding more VIs like Omnisphere and Trilian. It works great for stuff like that.

My hope is that Plogue makes a 64bit Mac version of Bidule. Then we can use 64bit K4 without needing KMS (which does NOT work well on my system) and load it up to the gills without memory restrictions. That would ease the need for a 64bit DP......I've maxed out the RAM in DP......

Cheers.
-gabe