question about streaming samples from different hard drives

[Midi maniac]

I know it is not very relevant to the forum but I would appreciate if you could help me.

I have DP5 and I use PLAY (symphonic orchestra) as a plug in.
I have 5GB RAM

The CPU monitor at DP reaches very high when I am using the orchestral template (many samples...about 2GB RAM loaded n this template.
I am having all he libraries and dp in the same hard drive.
My question: i know that if i have play library in a different hard drive this will make things better regarding the cpu overload. Can I install the Symphonic orchestra in a data drive and load the samples from that drive or the play library only can be installed in a boot drive?
Please advise

[newrigel]

I know it is not very relevant to the forum but I would appreciate if you could help me.

I have DP5 and I use PLAY (symphonic orchestra) as a plug in.
I have 5GB RAM

The CPU monitor at DP reaches very high when I am using the orchestral template (many samples...about 2GB RAM loaded n this template.
I am having all he libraries and dp in the same hard drive.
My question: i know that if i have play library in a different hard drive this will make things better regarding the cpu overload. Can I install the Symphonic orchestra in a data drive and load the samples from that drive or the play library only can be installed in a boot drive?
Please advise

I don't understand what your referring to as a data drive but a USB drive isn't going to cut it, sorry... you'll need SATA.
But install another SATA drive and just copy the samples to it. Your not stating what kind of mac your using.. I'd just render the tracks as audio and move on otherwise you'll need a faster machine to do the type of thing you want with all those instances of play. Play uses the scripting engine in Kontakt and it is a DSP hog no matter what you do. Most artist that use it that way have multiple slave machines or they have an octal mac pro loaded up to the max but you'll be pulling your hair out to try to optimize that hardware (if it's a G5 or less) to run all that stuff concurrently. Either just render your VI's as audio and move on or get ready for some serious optimizing routines that in the end won't really yield much. If your using a Mac Pro I'd put the libraries on separate drives (more than 2) or get an SSD but that'll cost ya... it's all about how much raw DSP power you have in your machine for that type of workflow.. (no rendering with a ton of VI's that are all active and open concurrently and not to mention the DSP hungry ones).

[KEVORKIAN]

Get another drive and just copy the samples to it. Your not stating what kind of mac your using.. I'd just render the tracks as audio and move on otherwise you'll need a faster machine to do the type of thing you want with all those instances of play. Play uses the scripting engine in Kontakt and it is a DSP hog no matter what you do. Most artist that use it that way have multiple slave machines or they have an octal mac pro loaded up to the max but you'll be pulling your hair out to try to optimize that hardware (if it's a G5 or less) to run all that stuff concurrently. Either just render your VI's as audio and move on or get ready for some serious optimizing routines that in the end won't really yield much. If your using a Mac Pro I'd put the libraries on separate drives (more than 2) or get an SSD but that'll cost ya... it's all about how much raw DSP power you have in your machine for that type of workflow.. (no rendering with a ton of VI's that are all active and open concurrently and not to mention the DSP hungry ones).

+1

All this is true. You can also consider testing a rewired Plogue Bidule setup as this will get your Play instances out of DP and thus away from DP's ram limits. No matter what you need a strong Mac to get this really cooking.

[newrigel]

No matter what you need a strong Mac to get this really cooking.

Yep... and hopefully you don't get it too cooking he he... and burn it up!

[Frodo]

1. Do not use your System drive for streaming DP audio or VIs.

2. If you do not have SO-Platinum or Platinum Plus, copy the entire library (IDEALLY) to 4 different SATA or eSATA drives. I tried firewire drives with PLAY and SO. No dice even using an Intel.

Stream winds from one drive, brass from another, percussion for another, and strings from another. Splitting the workload helps. If you only have two drives, I'd load winds/brass from one and percussion/strings from the other-- but cannot recommend a more compact organization than that.

Keep in mind that if you have Platinum or Plat-Plus it will still be wise to not expect to run a library that large on one machine, particularly when you are ready to render audio with the triple mic positions @ 24-bit.

[Midi maniac]

thanks
should the files be at a boot drive or a data iternal drive can work?

[Midi maniac]

Ok...I did it...I draged a Play library from the main drive (the one that I am running DP) to a data drive, and then i loaded a sound from that data drive from the browser in Play...and it works fine.
One question
after I copied all the libraries to the data drive, is it OK if I delete the libraries of the main drive just to preserve some free disk space?

Thanks
!

[Frodo]

One question
after I copied all the libraries to the data drive, is it OK if I delete the libraries of the main drive just to preserve some free disk space?

Yes. It is okay to delete the libraries on the main drive.

Glad it worked!

[tonester]

I know it is not very relevant to the forum but I would appreciate if you could help me.

I have DP5 and I use PLAY (symphonic orchestra) as a plug in.
I have 5GB RAM

The CPU monitor at DP reaches very high when I am using the orchestral template (many samples...about 2GB RAM loaded n this template.
I am having all he libraries and dp in the same hard drive.
My question: i know that if i have play library in a different hard drive this will make things better regarding the cpu overload. Can I install the Symphonic orchestra in a data drive and load the samples from that drive or the play library only can be installed in a boot drive?
Please advise

Well, first off, make sure you're using the latest version of Play. I would definitely keep the Play libraries on a separate HD, preferably FW or SATA. You don't want DP trying to access audio and streaming at the same time. I have an Intel iMac with 4G RAM, and a separate FW HD with Play libraries, and with a fairly substantial Orchestral template, I'm really only seeing a 4% CPU hit. Of course, I'm not running a lot of other audio tracks and VI's at the same time. If you are, you may want to consider freezing or bouncing some of that audio.
hope this helps

[Midi maniac]

Thanks guys.
I deleted the libraries from the main drive
I loaded all the samples from the data drive but the cpu window in DP shows the same activity. In other words I do not think it helped at all to load samples from a different drive.
In this template I only have two instances of PLAY with symphonic choirs.
4 multis (sopranos-altos-tenors-basses).
I will try to load the two choirs from the data drive and the other two(tenos-basses) from another drive and see if it helps.

However, I think it is normal to show such an activity as the manual (for symphonic choirs)states it clearly that the multis are cpu consuming and that we should not use all 4 multis at the same time but instead bouncing to audio when a choir track is done...