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newrigel wrote:
DP isn't a loop creation or manipulation tool...
If you go back and read every one of my post you'll find that the only thing I stated was facts.
....it seems others can't handle the truth.
Here's part of the problem. DP IS indeed a "loop creation" tool. Among it's myriad of uses for me, I occasionally use it to create my own loops.
It is also a loop manipulation tool, a very advanced one at that.
Now maybe you're mixed up with the terminology but if you're going to talk about "facts" and "truth" you need to check what you wrote.
Here's what I will say, almost everything here is an opinion, including mine.
newrigel wrote:You state that just because someone says loops aren't you actually performing.. that we are being rude and insulting. If asking someone to post up an example of what you do makes us sound like we are full of ourselves then you have some issues. DP isn't a loop creation or manipulation tool and th OP stated that's what his intentions were by stating that Logic did and to me if you can't go and read up and find out what a piece of software has to offer then going to a rivals site and stating why doesn't it have the same features is beyond me. If you go back and read every one of my post you'll find that the only thing I stated was facts. If I put a loop in my music it isn't me... But I can live with it if I did... sorry it seems to be an issue with others. Pointing the finger @ me just because I wanted to hear what your doing doesn't make me a {censored}... it allows us all to get a better understanding of what's really going on with this type of applied technique in your instance. I can hold my own composure through all the BS but it seems others can't handle the truth.
Ok Newrigel, you're always right. I forgot. Never mind.
newrigel wrote:
DP isn't a loop creation or manipulation tool...
If you go back and read every one of my post you'll find that the only thing I stated was facts.
....it seems others can't handle the truth.
Here's part of the problem. DP IS indeed a "loop creation" tool. Among it's myriad of uses for me, I occasionally use it to create my own loops.
It is also a loop manipulation tool, a very advanced one at that.
Now maybe you're mixed up with the terminology but if you're going to talk about "facts" and "truth" you need to check what you wrote.
Here's what I will say, almost everything here is an opinion, including mine.
Any audio in a any DAW can be copy and pasted... but it's in the richness of the content provided is where it's strengths and direction go with it's intended audience. Logic comes with GB's of content whereas DP comes with maybe what, 100 -200 Mb? Anyway, I'm done and this has just been a loop in itself. All I know is that throughout this discussion, I have held my composure and never denounced anyone's capabilities at (and/or) being an artist.
If DP's intended niche to fill was looping... why in the world would MOTU even waste it's time on BPM?
I know one thing... if I was into looping, I wouldn't even use a DAW. I'd use something like Max and finish in DP but that's me.
BKK-OZ wrote:
I can't stand bullies, and I've never worried for a minute about standing up to bullies, so sure tough guy, PM me and anywhere, anytime. NewRigel can bring his grandma too.
It would be a wise move to keep me and my GM out of your beefs...
newrigel wrote:You state that just because someone says loops aren't you actually performing.. that we are being rude and insulting. If asking someone to post up an example of what you do makes us sound like we are full of ourselves then you have some issues. DP isn't a loop creation or manipulation tool and th OP stated that's what his intentions were by stating that Logic did and to me if you can't go and read up and find out what a piece of software has to offer then going to a rivals site and stating why doesn't it have the same features is beyond me. If you go back and read every one of my post you'll find that the only thing I stated was facts. If I put a loop in my music it isn't me... But I can live with it if I did... sorry it seems to be an issue with others. Pointing the finger @ me just because I wanted to hear what your doing doesn't make me a {censored}... it allows us all to get a better understanding of what's really going on with this type of applied technique in your instance. I can hold my own composure through all the BS but it seems others can't handle the truth.
Ok Newrigel, you're always right. I forgot. Never mind.
And I have never taken away "your right" to your opinion... fair enough?
I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
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Phil O wrote:I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
Phil O wrote:I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
Phil O wrote:I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
Seems like it's only dealing with a certain sector or genre of music... What does that have to do with DP not catering to loop based users? Copyright infringement has plagued that sector and genre for how long now... since it's inception? Nothing new here.
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:@ Mr. Cherbourg... Not frightening at all. Don't over credit yourself for composition or instilling fear. For the record, I fear nothing, bud. I've looked death in the face up close and personal so your anon post does nothing to make me shiver. Too funny. Ah, youth...
No, your question didn't get answered because it is irrelevant.
Phil O wrote:I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
Phil O wrote:I don't know if you have seen this or not, but there's some interesting stuff in here on "samples" and "loops." Also check out other stuff on Tecnobrega (techno brega, tecno braga). I'm not saying which side I'm on in this discussion as it's a little heated shall we say, but I thought this might be interesting to you folks.
Seems like it's only dealing with a certain sector or genre of music... What does that have to do with DP not catering to loop based users? Copyright infringement has plagued that sector and genre for how long now... since it's inception? Nothing new here.
Wow. I wouldn't dismiss something as broad as that documentary in a role of the eyes - but that's just me. Did you watch the whole thing? I'm still watching it here.
Also, you're getting really confusing man. I would lay down the mantra that DP is "not catering to loop based users?" - it's just simply bad information - we all are wrong sometimes.
