DP 7.01 out now - UPDATED

[ToolFool]

Disappointed to find the weird click issue when fast forwarding in playback is still present.
However tech support may not have had time to fix this for 7.01. (They have said they are looking into it)

FYI - Myself and several other users had noticed that in 7.0 when the click is audible in playback mode and you fast fwd for a few seconds the click goes out of sync and even continues to 'click' when you hit stop.
It's getting kind of irritating now!

OTHERWISE 7.01 seems smooth.

[Eleventh Hour Sound]

I'm not set up for that kind of thing. For me it's output to busses or nothing. I mix the audio from the VI's just as I would if they were actual rack units coming into the sequence through an audio interface. But I was doing the same thing in DP 7.0, and it never crashed. I'm afraid there may be some corruption going on in a Preference or something like that.

I still think that your crashes are something unique to your system, though it would be impossible for me to guess what the problem is. The reason I think that is because most of us really had no crashes in DP 7.0. But it's possible that whatever caused the problem in your system could happen to any of us, and now that I've installed many more things, perhaps I've introduced a similar bug into my system.

It'll just take a lot more reports from everyone before we have enough of a consensus on which to base any conclusions.

Hey Shoosh, Sorry you're having crashes. (Hate that!) This is a shot in the dark, but since there is a mention of busses, I thought of this: One time I was having weird crashes and I rebuilt my audio bundles (yes it's a pain) but it solved a weird esoteric problem I was having, so maybe try rebuilding your bundles?

[wurliuchi]

I've often wondered if some crashes are caused by DP figuring Automatic Delay Compensation. Just a thought.

Shooshie, I had the Analog Synth crash DP, too. I was rifling through its presets as you were with the Nomad plugs. I'm running 6.02, and I couldn't remember the last time DP crashed on me, must have been three or four months ago.

[James Steele]

Disappointed to find the weird click issue when fast forwarding in playback is still present.
However tech support may not have had time to fix this for 7.01. (They have said they are looking into it)

FYI - Myself and several other users had noticed that in 7.0 when the click is audible in playback mode and you fast fwd for a few seconds the click goes out of sync and even continues to 'click' when you hit stop.
It's getting kind of irritating now!

OTHERWISE 7.01 seems smooth.

I'm trying hard to understand what your talking about and why this is even an issue? The click is out of sync after fast forwarding during playback. So the issue is when you stop it is out of sync still, or does it settle in?

So... ummm... hit stop, then start up again. I mean maybe they can get to this but I fail to see that this is a big deal.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

[zed]

Hey folks,

My copy of DP7 is finally due to arrive tomorrow, and I look forward to installing it immediately upon taking the package from the UPS delivery guy.

What is the consensus about what to do about DP6? Is it really necessary for me to uninstall DP6 before installing DP7? I'm tempted to just install DP7 on my system as it is and then just deleting the DP6 application later. What did the rest of you do?

[James Steele]

Hey folks,

My copy of DP7 is finally due to arrive tomorrow, and I look forward to installing it immediately upon taking the package from the UPS delivery guy.

What is the consensus about what to do about DP6? Is it really necessary for me to uninstall DP6 before installing DP7? I'm tempted to just install DP7 on my system as it is and then just deleting the DP6 application later. What did the rest of you do?

I don't think it's unnecessary at all to delete DP6 first. I didn't.

One thing to do though is if you have moved your MOTU MAS plugs inside a folder inside the "MAS" folder (I have mine in one called "MOTU") you'll want to move them back into the main MAS folder so the DP7 installer can overwrite the older versions of the plugs.

[zed]

One thing to do though is if you have moved your MOTU MAS plugs inside a folder inside the "MAS" folder (I have mine in one called "MOTU") you'll want to move them back into the main MAS folder so the DP7 installer can overwrite the older versions of the plugs.

Oh yeah... thanks for reminding me about that!!

I actually have my MAS folder divided into numerous subfolders:

MAS Delay and Modulation
MAS Dynamics
MAS EQ and Filter
MAS Instruments
MAS Reverb
MAS Utilities

And now that I was just looking in the MAS folder, I've realized that when I reinstalled DP6 a few weeks ago it created new copies of all the plugins in the main level of the MAS folder, even though DP is still referencing and showing only the plugins still contained in those folders.

So glad you reminded me about this, because it may have taken me a while to catch wind of this.

[James Steele]

And now that I was just looking in the MAS folder, I've realized that when I reinstalled DP6 a few weeks ago it created new copies of all the plugins in the main level of the MAS folder, even though DP is still referencing and showing only the plugins still contained in those folders.

Been there... done that. And the problem is that an older version of a plug may cause instability if it's not the right version that comes with the newer version of DP.

[ToolFool]

Disappointed to find the weird click issue when fast forwarding in playback is still present.
However tech support may not have had time to fix this for 7.01. (They have said they are looking into it)

FYI - Myself and several other users had noticed that in 7.0 when the click is audible in playback mode and you fast fwd for a few seconds the click goes out of sync and even continues to 'click' when you hit stop.
It's getting kind of irritating now!

OTHERWISE 7.01 seems smooth.

I'm trying hard to understand what your talking about and why this is even an issue? The click is out of sync after fast forwarding during playback. So the issue is when you stop it is out of sync still, or does it settle in?

So... ummm... hit stop, then start up again. I mean maybe they can get to this but I fail to see that this is a big deal.

Hi James,
when you fast forward (anything over a few seconds) during playback then release, all audio continues to play along while the click starts echoing out of time for several seconds. If you then hit stop the click conitinues to play on. It's distracting, and it's buggy - MOTU are looking into it.
Best, M

[James Steele]

Weird... I get it now. So the click continues to play after you hit stop. Probably lags a while and then stops, maybe? I see why it might be an issue. I never FFWD in play if I can avoid it so I haven't run into it. (It just makes such a racket!)

[MIDI Life Crisis]

If the click continues past the stop for any substantial length of time then it clearly is an issue. But if the click simply goes out of sync when you resume play after fast forwarding, I wouldn't count that as a "bug" per se. It's a kin to saying that there is something wrong with the brakes in your car. When you sslam on the brakes, everything in the trunk and backseat moves forward.

Computer programs are made to do certain things and take certain "abuses." I don't see this as something a programmer would foresee as needing to be addressed. Nut heck, if MOTU is looking at fixing it, it must be broken...?

[Dwetmaster]

Hi James,
when you fast forward (anything over a few seconds) during playback then release, all audio continues to play along while the click starts echoing out of time for several seconds. If you then hit stop the click conitinues to play on. It's distracting, and it's buggy - MOTU are looking into it.
Best, M

Hey mitch, a workaround is to use the "jump to next measure" key command instead of FFWD. Never had any issues with it and it goes faster than FFWD anyways...

[ToolFool]

Dwetmaster....
Yes! Doh, I forgot all about that blindingly obvious command. Makes sense to use that instead! Thanks!

MIDI LIFE CRISIS...
Yes the click not only continues to play after hitting stop (after a FFWD) but also continues the crazy echo rhythm pattern. MOTU seemed to be thankful for me bringing it up - feels good to think I might have made my first real contribution to DP!!!!!

M

[James Steele]

MIDI LIFE CRISIS...
Yes the click not only continues to play after hitting stop (after a FFWD) but also continues the crazy echo rhythm pattern. MOTU seemed to be thankful for me bringing it up - feels good to think I might have made a first real contribution to DP!!!!!

Yeah... thanks for explaining it for me, Mitch. At first I was thinking "huh?"... but as you explained it definitely would be something that would be annoying. Fortunately for me, I don't run into it much, but they should fix it. Kudos to Dwetmaster for reminding us about the workaround.