Is there a more stable Mac OS for DP6?

[csiaudio]

Hey all. I'm having issues with Mac OS 10.5.5 and was wondering is there is a previous system that was more stable for DP6.01? Now as much as I would appreciate the '...10.5x works for me...' comments I am really looking for more concrete facts of why a certain OS works better. Some of you hard core Mac users probably would know that kind of stuff. On a side note I have heard that Apple is focusing on making the OS more stable since all the upgrades and I sure hope they get it together

Thanks for any help you may offer!

[beautypill]

Wow. Disturbing avatar.

I am on 10.5.5 and I have crash issues as well. Mac Pro 2x2.8ghz quad-core intel xeon, 2gb of memory (not as much as I would like).

Crashes about ten times a day. I just deal with it.

I have faith MOTU is working day-and-night to make this program work.

- c

[csiaudio]

Wow. Disturbing avatar.

Yeah pretty much sums up how I feel about my new Dual Quad Core 3.0 running OS Ten Point Gonna Crash Five Five and all the conflicting third party software....nice isn't it? Weren't computers suppose to make our lives easier!?? Ha, and we bought into it...just like our government telling us their gonna lower taxes...yeah, right.

[mongoose]

Ok, this may or may not help, but: I ran into some annoying crashes in DP6, especially while recording, on my new system. I disabled pre-fill buffers and plugin pre-rendering and all the crashes went away. Mixed a 22-song album this weekend with no glitches.

YMMV, of course.

[Dwetmaster]

See my sig for my system. DP6.01 is working fairly good.

[NashvilleJoe]

Hey all. I'm having issues with Mac OS 10.5.5 and was wondering is there is a previous system that was more stable for DP6.01? Now as much as I would appreciate the '...10.5x works for me...' comments I am really looking for more concrete facts of why a certain OS works better. Some of you hard core Mac users probably would know that kind of stuff. On a side note I have heard that Apple is focusing on making the OS more stable since all the upgrades and I sure hope they get it together

Thanks for any help you may offer!

i am running on 10.4.11 and its pretty rock solid- a couple of freezes a week but usually when i am running my VI's in an unusual manner- i do keep the buffers pretty high when i start to pile of the tracks- but for the most part- it runs with no issues. if i am recording with ivory i will generally lower the buffers for the latency issues- but will bring em back up after that is complete- when i am patched through to MIDI for external modules- i have no issues at all.

hope this helps!!

[Timeline]

You just have to wonder is Apple is throwing in monkey wrenches to the OS to slow their competitors down.
Conspiracy theories aside, it's always something isn't it.

[Eleventh Hour Sound]

I'm running OSX 10.5.5 and I finally have DP 6.01 running pretty stable. DP6 seems to be happier on Intel than PPC. First I would suggest 4 Gigs of ram of you can afford it. Try opening Activity Monitor while you have DP running. You will see that under heavy loads DP may want to use 2 gigs and sometimes almost 3 gigs all by itself. (While you're in there, see if there's anything else that hogging a lot of CPU) I also recommend turning off spotlight. You can do this by going to spotlight in your system preferences, going to the privacy tab and dragging your hard drives there. (Telling spotlight not to index them) Turning off/killing widgets (I forget what it's called) can help too. Also, I find that turning off WiFi or any other networking can help. Then there's hard drives. Have dedicated, separate hard drives on separate busses can help lots. I use my boot drive only for the System and DP. I have separate eSata drives for DP audio and for VI libraries, and only use fire wire for my audio interface.

Ohhh, banging your head against the keyboard until your brains gush out can overload DP with too many simultaneous key commands.

Hope this helps.

[Kubi]

Could not agree more. You need to get a LOT more RAM, between Leo and DP, 2G is woefully inadequate. I'd say minimum is 5G, more is better. And make sure it's good quality, otherwise you may add regular kernel panics to your crashes... Also be sure you have enough free disk space (25% empty or more) on your startup drive.

LOVE that avatar.

[steinstein]

To be honest i use logic pro 8 , 50% , ableton live 6.07 25% and dp6.01 25% of all my projects , and i've had like 2 crashes this month with dp6.01 , 1 was because of melodyne and the other one still don't know , i think i have been lucky! i use x.5.4 , macbookpro 2.16ghz/2gigs ram and imac 2.4ghz/3gigs ram , a have both computers with the disk partition , journaled on the system and extended on the audio , and both are mega stable on a 8 to 10 hour work daily.......

[DMac]

Ok, this may or may not help, but: I ran into some annoying crashes in DP6, especially while recording, on my new system. I disabled pre-fill buffers and plugin pre-rendering and all the crashes went away. Mixed a 22-song album this weekend with no glitches.

...sorry for a dumb question but how do you disable pre-fill buffers and pre-rendering? Is that the 'run this instance in realtime' option on plugin screens?

[mongoose]

...sorry for a dumb question but how do you disable pre-fill buffers and pre-rendering? Is that the 'run this instance in realtime' option on plugin screens?

The pre-fill buffers thing is in the 'configure studio settings' window. To axe pre-rendering I go to the audio plugin prefs and set to 'run all plugins in real time.'

I realize both of these are potentially nifty features, but I don't need them and I get much better stability without.

[DMac]

...hey mongoose, thanks for the info. My fingers are crossed. I unchecked pre-fill buffers, set all plug-ins to run in real time and it's actually not crashed in the last five minutes. Of course, all I've done is loop a five second MIDI track, but earlier today, that was taking DP down in short order.

Oh please, oh please be working better

(the pessimist in me is having a jolly good time, sensing, I think, the precariousness of my naive, optimistic twin)

[monkey man]

Ha! Too funny, DMac.

You just have to wonder is Apple is throwing in monkey wrenches to the OS to slow their competitors down.

Who're you calling "wench", Gary?

[csiaudio]

...hey mongoose, thanks for the info. My fingers are crossed. I unchecked pre-fill buffers, set all plug-ins to run in real time and it's actually not crashed in the last five minutes. Of course, all I've done is loop a five second MIDI track, but earlier today, that was taking DP down in short order.

See...you just shouldn't have that happening. I assume you have done the following; Repair Disc Permissions, if you have Disk Warrior - which I totally recommend - use it, if you don't, buy it and then use it. Uninstall and reinstalled DP, make sure you get ALL the DP folders and toss them - reinstall all your plugs or have DP reexamined the plugins. I have done this and it seems to be helping. My issue is/was while playing back the audio would simply turn off while it was still suppose to be playing the audio back...then shortly after it stops I get the beach ball and I can't even force quit I have to do a hard shut down. But like I said it was happening a lot all of a sudden but after doing these things it seems much better. I still want to 'down grade' to an earlier OS but I still haven't had anyone give me a good reason to go to a specific OS yet. Still hoping that will happen.

Good luck to us all