plug-ins & vi's that are not working with dp6

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:45 am

RecordingArts wrote:As soon as I got rid of the 1.22 version in my master channel and replaced it with 1.3 all was well!!!!

Thanks for the custom tech support James!

No need. You were the one that figured out what was going wrong. I might never have found it because I'm illogical/lazy enough to just throw up my hands in that situation and chalk it up to the ghost in the machine and not investigate further.

Eleventh Hour Sound · Post by **Eleventh Hour Sound** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:12 am

James Steele wrote:
RecordingArts wrote:As soon as I got rid of the 1.22 version in my master channel and replaced it with 1.3 all was well!!!!

Thanks for the custom tech support James!
No need. You were the one that figured out what was going wrong. I might never have found it because I'm illogical/lazy enough to just throw up my hands in that situation and chalk it up to the ghost in the machine and not investigate further.

That's what I love about "The Nation" though. It makes me think:) Just hearing that yours worked made me look a little harder.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:40 am

Sonnox Sony Oxford Dynamics plug does not work in DP 6 and just installing DP6 will break the thing from working in 5.13 as well.

I had to uninstall 6, AND reinstall 5.13 to get it to work again.

I wrote a thread about it here somewhere..

daveyboy · Post by **daveyboy** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:53 am

Killahurts wrote:Sonnox Sony Oxford Dynamics plug does not work in DP 6 and just installing DP6 will break the thing from working in 5.13 as well.

I had to uninstall 6, AND reinstall 5.13 to get it to work again.

I wrote a thread about it here somewhere..

Too bad you did a whole reinstall. We should have a sticky about the broken AudioUnit Support.bundle so that folks know the work around. Seems like a big one to me. James, what say you?

Rusty Shackleford · Post by **Rusty Shackleford** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:57 am

Does Atmosphere, Trilogy and Stylus RMX work in DP6 on a PPC? Thanks.

Killahurts · Post by **Killahurts** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:32 pm

daveyboy wrote:
Killahurts wrote:Sonnox Sony Oxford Dynamics plug does not work in DP 6 and just installing DP6 will break the thing from working in 5.13 as well.

I had to uninstall 6, AND reinstall 5.13 to get it to work again.

I wrote a thread about it here somewhere..
Too bad you did a whole reinstall. We should have a sticky about the broken AudioUnit Support.bundle so that folks know the work around. Seems like a big one to me. James, what say you?

Good idea! In the meantime, what is the workaround?

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:42 pm

daveyboy wrote:
Killahurts wrote:Sonnox Sony Oxford Dynamics plug does not work in DP 6 and just installing DP6 will break the thing from working in 5.13 as well.

I had to uninstall 6, AND reinstall 5.13 to get it to work again.

I wrote a thread about it here somewhere..
Too bad you did a whole reinstall. We should have a sticky about the broken AudioUnit Support.bundle so that folks know the work around. Seems like a big one to me. James, what say you?

I switched out the 6.0 AU support bundle for the 5.13 one, and all of my VIs and plug-ins are running perfectly in 6.0.

I had the privilege of finding this temp fix here on the 'Nation before I installed 6.0. So, before I loaded it up, I saved the 5.13 bundle to another drive, then slugged it in after.

If the 6.0 support bundle was advanced only to allow prerendering, I'm fine removing it. I prefer to work without prerendering anything. No unexpected audio pops.

I should say: Since then, I've only given 6.0 a quick one-hour test drive, but it held up perfectly.

carrythebanner · Post by **carrythebanner** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:45 pm

chrispick wrote:If the 6.0 support bundle was advanced only to allow prerendering, I'm fine removing. I prefer to work without prerendering anything.

It's probably required for the other AU enhancements: ramp automation, sidechain inputs, Cocoa UIs, etc.

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:49 pm

carrythebanner wrote:
chrispick wrote:If the 6.0 support bundle was advanced only to allow prerendering, I'm fine removing. I prefer to work without prerendering anything.
It's probably required for the other AU enhancements: ramp automation, sidechain inputs, Cocoa UIs, etc.

Ah, yes. You're probably right. Well, I kept the 6.0 bundle on my system. Should I need to switch it back in, I can roll the dice.

kwiz · Post by **kwiz** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:50 pm

Sound Toys bundle: knobs won't turn at all.

Also, bounce to disk crashed several times on a 26 track project.
I ended up saving the project in 5.12 and then opened DP 5 in order to BTD.

labman · Post by **labman** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:49 pm

chrispick wrote: I switched out the 6.0 AU support bundle for the 5.13 one, and all of my VIs and plug-ins are running perfectly in 6.0.

I had the privilege of finding this temp fix here on the 'Nation before I installed 6.0. So, before I loaded it up, I saved the 5.13 bundle to another drive, then slugged it in after.

If the 6.0 support bundle was advanced only to allow prerendering, I'm fine removing it. I prefer to work without prerendering anything. No unexpected audio pops.

I should say: Since then, I've only given 6.0 a quick one-hour test drive, but it held up perfectly.

Can you please lis all your plugs and V.I.s Chris. Thanks so much.

Regards,
DLevy
mgr, Legacy Lab

mongoose · Post by **mongoose** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:48 pm

Just to update: there was a post on another thread that noted VI failure only when the GUI was opened in DP6; I tested this and got the same results.

If I make a project with VIs like B4II or M-Tron using the old AU MAS bundle to set them up, and then open them in DP6 using the new AU MAS wrapper, everything is hunky dory until I open the GUI. Then DP crashes.

All of these various reports suggest a problem with handling the GUI on AUs in DP6. I've filed (and revised multiple times) a report with MOTU tech support; my understanding is hat others have done so as well. Hopefully we'll see some response.

homebilly · Post by **homebilly** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:51 pm

MachFive version 2.0 (the version that reads the Trilogy & Atmosphere .dats) works.

there are some graphics anomalies though....

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:05 am

labman wrote:Can you please list all your plugs and V.I.s Chris. Thanks so much.

Sure.

VIs:

alphakanal Automat
FabFilter Twin
iZotope iDrum
Rob Papen Blue
Spectrasonics Atmophere (via wrapper)
USB Plugsound Pro
MicroTonic
fxpansion BFD
NI B4
NI Massive
NI Kontakt 2

Plugins:

AudioEase Altiverb 6
FabFilter Volcano
iZotope Ozone
iZotope Vinyl
Massey Tape Head (AU deal)
Voxengo VariSaturator
WaveArts TrackPlug
Sonalkis FreeG
Antares Auto Tune 5
Audio Damage Dubstation, Liquid and Reverence
NI Guitar Rig 2
PSP MixPack and VintageWarmer
UAD-1, nearly everything they offer

Tested them all. Printed to file. Bounced quick mix to HD. Successful on all counts.

dp-user · Post by **dp-user** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:19 am

chrispick wrote:
carrythebanner wrote:
chrispick wrote:If the 6.0 support bundle was advanced only to allow prerendering, I'm fine removing. I prefer to work without prerendering anything.
It's probably required for the other AU enhancements: ramp automation, sidechain inputs, Cocoa UIs, etc.
Ah, yes. You're probably right. Well, I kept the 6.0 bundle on my system. Should I need to switch it back in, I can roll the dice.

I'm not sure what the difference is, but for me, all the NI plugs work fine in DP6 (using the DP6 Mas AU support bundle, not the older one). In fact, I have yet to find a plugin that doesn't work in DP6...

The very first time I tried an AU insert effect, DP6 did present an error message, but then I selected a different effect, which came up, and then selected "Reactivate Effects" from the mini-menu in the effect editor, and I was able to load the effect I tried to load the first time. I haven't seen this issue since...

Other than that, everything's fine. It would be interesting to know what's different between our setups...

MBP 2.33GHz, 2GB RAM, OSX 10.5.4, QT 7.5, DP6