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Hey Mr. Mix...

I'm a happy BFD2 user who has to give you your dues for including a hard drive instead of DVD's (and one with all the right ports.)

Here's a few questions:

Can the Mix library be backed up onto another Hard Drive for safe keeping, or does your HD also act as a form of copy protection?

(I just had problems with my Ivory Piano Library and fortunately I was able to copy it over from another drive.)

Speaking of copy protection, which do you use, challenge and response, iLok, or.... ?

Does it work with the full versions of Kontakt 2 & 3, and is it OSX 10.5.1 compatible?

Thanks,
-Vincent
DP11.1, 16" MacBookPro 2.3Ghz 8 Core i9's 32GB Ram 1TB SSD, (2) external 1TB Samsung SSD's , Steven Slate SSD 5.5 and Trigger Drums, ML-1 Mic and VSX Headphones, Omnisphere 2, Trilian, Ivory2, EW, MSI, MX-4, Philharmonik 2, Komplete, Reason, Live, Melodyne, IK Multi's Total Studio, ARC, T-RackS, SampleTron, AMG's KickA--Brass. and my beloved guitars :-)
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Post by MIXOSAURUS »

Hello Vincent,
RecordingArts wrote: Can the Mix library be backed up onto another Hard Drive for safe keeping, or does your HD also act as a form of copy protection?
It's a standard drive - no custom filesystem, no protection. The drives are formatted FAT32 for maximum PC/Mac compatibility, and you can copy/move the data over to any drive you want and then set the new library path in the KontaktPlayer GUI.
Speaking of copy protection, which do you use, challenge and response, iLok, or.... ?
Being a KontaktPlayer2 library, it uses NI's Service Center (=Challenge/Response).
Does it work with the full versions of Kontakt 2 & 3, and is it OSX 10.5.1 compatible?
It works with the full version of Kontakt (both 2 and 3). However, the patches do not allow to enter Kontakt's edit pages and thus you won't gain anything by using them in the full version except for the option to use MIXOSAURUS together with other Kontakt patches in one multi. That's possible.

Yes, MIXOSAURUS is Leopard-compatible. The installer as well as the KP2 software/plugins run on PPC/Intel/Tiger/Leopard.

Kind regards, and thanks for asking!
Uwe
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(btw one day to go... the 40% offer ends tomorrow morning)
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Hello,

I'm happy to announce the release of the MIXOSAURUS DAW Drums Kit A v1.1 Update, available as of now.

The update is FREE for all MIXOSAURUS users and can be downloaded from MIXOSAURUS.com.
v1.1 brings a few new features to Kit A, significantly expanding its range of possible applications:

- new "eco" instruments with lower RAM requirements and faster loading times (down to 1/7 of the full patches)
- built-in ability to understand MIDI drum tracks of almost any format you can think of
- optimized performance tuning options now allow to run Kit A at small audio buffer settings (e.g. 64 samples on a MacBookPro)
- e-drum playability (with live monitoring of Kit A!)

Check out www.MIXOSAURUS.com for details. The full v1.1 Update Manual can be freely downloaded from the site's Help/Downloads section.

Here's a little example of some wild TD-12 drumming to illustrate how well it performs with an e-drum.
The MP3 contains two passes of the same performance - the first is the "full mix" version with all tracks, Alternating Samples and some plugin processing active, while the second pass is the Kit A monitor sound that the drummer heard in his headphones while playing ("ecoT" patch, no effects added).

NOTE: NOT A SINGLE MIDI EDIT has been made to this track - it is exactly as it left the TD-12's MIDI output. This is the pure Kit A's TD-12 Translation.

http://www.MIXOSAURUS.com/audio/KitA_and_TD-12.mp3


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Uwe

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Has anyone gotten any serious time with this VI for feedback purposes?
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Frodo wrote:I went to West LA Music yesterday and told my rep about Mixosaurus. He was so intrigued that I think he wrote for more info on the spot.

He also told me that while BFD's rawness had its benefits, lots of TV composers didn't want to deal with quite so much "from scratch" programming and mixing. I don't have to mix under TV-type pressure, but the more I learn about mixosaurus, the more it appeals to me.

Salesmen at West LA Music mused at length about the pricing, comparing it to other comparably sized libraries. They were extremely pleased at how reasonable it appeared to be.

I'll be checking in with them over the next week or so to see what goes down, but they were extremely taken by this VI.
Did you ever get BFD2? Just curious. It's actually much more user friendly in terms of getting processed ready to go drum sounds. Once you tweak your kit you can save all the settings to use in other songs. Using BFD 1 took a lot of work for me to get the same sound in each song since i was outputting individual drums out to their own aux sends for processing. Now it's a snap. Also, I can make an aux track in the bfd2 mixer and send it out to dp to a dp aux track with a plate verb. Real easy.
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daveyboy wrote:Did you ever get BFD2? Just curious. It's actually much more user friendly in terms of getting processed ready to go drum sounds. Once you tweak your kit you can save all the settings to use in other songs. Using BFD 1 took a lot of work for me to get the same sound in each song since i was outputting individual drums out to their own aux sends for processing. Now it's a snap. Also, I can make an aux track in the bfd2 mixer and send it out to dp to a dp aux track with a plate verb. Real easy.
Howz BFD2 with Leopard? BFD1 has yet to be rendered functional in Leo, at least per the FXpansion website. Leo compatibility combined with the enhanced user friendliness has me thinking...
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HCMarkus wrote:
daveyboy wrote:Did you ever get BFD2? Just curious. It's actually much more user friendly in terms of getting processed ready to go drum sounds. Once you tweak your kit you can save all the settings to use in other songs. Using BFD 1 took a lot of work for me to get the same sound in each song since i was outputting individual drums out to their own aux sends for processing. Now it's a snap. Also, I can make an aux track in the bfd2 mixer and send it out to dp to a dp aux track with a plate verb. Real easy.
Howz BFD2 with Leopard? BFD1 has yet to be rendered functional in Leo, at least per the FXpansion website. Leo compatibility combined with the enhanced user friendliness has me thinking...
Working great in Leo on both ppc and intel.
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Thanks Dave.
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Dear friends,

the MIXOSAURUS.com online store has been updated with selectable shipping methods and with a "bare (internal) drive only" product version, which both allow you to now save up to a total of 170,- US $ / 105,- •‚¬ compared to the "Full Box, FW800/eSATA" version.

The "bare drive" product is NOT a cut-down, feature-limited cripple of the real deal - it's the full 122GB library with all the MIXOSAURUS features, articulations and mic tracks available, shipping pre-installed on a 3.5" 160GB internal SATA-II drive together with the printed Kit A Manual (English). By default, we're using the same Samsung drives that have proven to be quiet, cool and fast enough for the streaming demands in our FW800/eSATA product, but you're free to specify a different model (and formatting PC/Mac) if you prefer.

Check MIXOSAURUS.com for prices and shipping times.

------------------------

Chris, did you contact Ken regarding his Kit A + DP experience?

Kind regards from Berlin, Germany
Uwe
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Hello Unicornation,

welcome back. I'm happy to announce that MIXOSAURUS has been awarded with the "Editor's Choice" label of Musician's Life, one of the leading online communities of musicians in Germany. As stated on the ML website, this label is given to "exceptionally good products that stand out from the rest".

Editor Jürgen Drogies was particularly surprised by KIT A's variability : "The sounds are so flexible - they will do well in almost any musical style; you can carry out soft & tasteful drumming as well as a really heavy sound ... I haven't found the 'one Kit' concept to be a limitation at all".

Those who can read German might check out the full review here. The others can at least spot a picture of me and Heidi :-)

Thanks for reading,
best regards from Berlin!

uwe
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Post by MIXOSAURUS »

Hello Unicornation,

New Demo Video online

MIXOSAURUS.com has been updated with a new video to demonstrate the versatility of Kit A.
Potential buyers have told us about their worries whether a single drumkit can serve many different musical styles, so we produced this 4-pieces-in-one demo which uses nothing but the "Standard Kit" preset: neither the Kick Drum beater, the Snare muffling nor the Overhead Setups change, and there isn't even an extra reverb on the drums - all things drums in there are Kit A, "Standard Kit" preset. Check out the video to see for yourself that it's all playing in realtime with the parameters tweaked by automation.

Thanks and regards,
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Post by melenko »

That product is just amazing at that price. 8)
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Hello everybody,

I'll be attending the NAMM show in January - in case any of you will be there as well I'd be delighted to meet you. We won't have a booth but you can check out MIXOSAURUS firsthand on my mobile setup... if you're many, we might even organize a group demo (anybody have or know a suitable place around Anaheim/LA?). I'll be happy to answer questions and show users a few programming tricks. Or send me a few bars of your drum-less audio now and I'll bring the drums along for you to experience the real thing in a mix situation.

And yes, our NAMM info material will include preview audio of the upcoming release, KIT B.

If you're interested - yell. I'll be in Anaheim, CA from Jan. 15th-19th.

best regards,
Uwe
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Quick reminder: Happy New NAMMuary - one week to go... check MIXOSAURUS.com.

All the best,
Uwe
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