NAMM REPORT (2nd hand): DP SIX!!!!!!!
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- auptown
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What a NAMM show, I'm bummed that I couldn't make it out. New fun stuff from Spectrasonics, East West, and now this!
What a NAMM dinner this will be...
Oh well, good things are coming, now I need a bigger wallet again.
What a NAMM dinner this will be...
Oh well, good things are coming, now I need a bigger wallet again.
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- sdemott
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Wow! I am impressed. I think I'm happiest about the BWF support, all the rest is just icing for me (and what sweet icing it is).
It's almost like they've been working on this and DP5 was a stall tactic to give them the extra time to deliver this killer upgrade.
It's been a while since I've been this excited about a DAW upgrade.
It's almost like they've been working on this and DP5 was a stall tactic to give them the extra time to deliver this killer upgrade.
It's been a while since I've been this excited about a DAW upgrade.
-Steve
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It was a $200 stall tactic. I wish that I could have skipped straight to 6.sdemott wrote: It's almost like they've been working on this and DP5 was a stall tactic to give them the extra time to deliver this killer upgrade.
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- auptown
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I concur! It seems like I've only had relative stability for a month or two in 5.sdemott wrote:
It's almost like they've been working on this and DP5 was a stall tactic to give them the extra time to deliver this killer upgrade.
Me too. I have been HOPING (like the mm) that I wouldn't have to buy AltiVerb. I wonder if it will be 5.1 compatible?sdemott wrote: It's been a while since I've been this excited about a DAW upgrade.
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That's what they were using for the demo!Talcott wrote:
How will it play with then new Mac Pro 8 bangers?
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- musicarteca
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I am speculating here, but I think that is what they mean when they say support for HD video frame rate.Shooshie wrote:Sounds great! I was kinda hoping for optional broadcast Wave support, But maybe that will come in the future. SDII is getting kinda long in the tooth, but it's still workable. Especially since you can now bounce directly to CD.
- Spikey Horse
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No, this means you can select 23.976 as a frame rate to work in. But, BWav files are also supported now.musicarteca wrote:I am speculating here, but I think that is what they mean when they say support for HD video frame rate.Shooshie wrote:Sounds great! I was kinda hoping for optional broadcast Wave support, But maybe that will come in the future. SDII is getting kinda long in the tooth, but it's still workable. Especially since you can now bounce directly to CD.
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- James Steele
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Apparently there is some sort of BWAV support, but I can't remember exactly!!Shooshie wrote:Sounds great! I was kinda hoping for optional broadcast Wave support, But maybe that will come in the future. SDII is getting kinda long in the tooth, but it's still workable. Especially since you can now bounce directly to CD.
My favorite new feature-to-be: VI's rendered with Bounce to Disk.
Thanks for the report, James!
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proverb colored waveforms yatta yatta yatta.....
i want triplets in the DE!!!!! please MOTU!!! can you hear me? TRIP-LETS!!!!!!
i want triplets in the DE!!!!! please MOTU!!! can you hear me? TRIP-LETS!!!!!!
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Very excited! Thanks James.
I was concerned about the future of DP after the release of Logic Studio, price cut and all. Even Keyboard magazine, in its review of LS (Jan 2008), said they were worried that it could 'have a chilling effect on other developers.' And when I checked Sweetwater's NAMM coverage and didn't see MOTU mentioned, I was starting to wonder, even though it's only the first day.
So I'm delighted to hear about DP 6, and hope to see it around for the long haul.
If that leveler is as good at what it does as is the MW EQ, I'll be really jazzed. And scalable tracks window? Colored waveforms? Exploded takes? VIs captured during bounce? Bounce to CD? It all sounds great. I'm ready to place my order!
I was concerned about the future of DP after the release of Logic Studio, price cut and all. Even Keyboard magazine, in its review of LS (Jan 2008), said they were worried that it could 'have a chilling effect on other developers.' And when I checked Sweetwater's NAMM coverage and didn't see MOTU mentioned, I was starting to wonder, even though it's only the first day.
So I'm delighted to hear about DP 6, and hope to see it around for the long haul.
If that leveler is as good at what it does as is the MW EQ, I'll be really jazzed. And scalable tracks window? Colored waveforms? Exploded takes? VIs captured during bounce? Bounce to CD? It all sounds great. I'm ready to place my order!
Bob
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- mhschmieder
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It's funny, I visited the MOTU website a few hours ago and assumed from the lack of news that they weren't releasing anything at NAMM .
I had to first get over my horror at the first point in the list ("overhauled GUI") and am still extremely nervous about that, but all of the other points are pretty surprising and most of them quite welcome for their impact on performance and workflow.
In particular, pre-rendering VI's and bouncing VI's to disc. This could stretch the life of my aging G4 iMac still further and get me over my final performance hump, which is the stubbornness of MOST of the Arturia soft synths to render without crashing (granted, even the older ones prefer a more powerful machine, but ironically I have more trouble with them than the ones whose minimum CPU specs are beyond mine!). A most unexpected feature and worth the price of upgrade on its own.
The one link that I saw for a small image preview scares me though -- very gaudy and distracting colours, like the other DAW's that I rejected in favour of DP oh so many years ago. I LIKE the muted colour scheme of DP and how non-distracting its current interface is. Of course vertical scaling in the mixer window is most welcome, but that is a specific/detail vs. the scary statement that the GUI (and implictly the workflow and way of working with DP) has been overhauled.
Hopefully the hints that I read are wrong and they didn't go to a single-view for working with tracks. I like being able to "switch perspective" (to borrow a term from my primary development tool, Eclipse) from Tracks View to Sequence View etc. IT sounds like they have eliminated this in favour of a single view that is supposed to have enough easy-to-grab shortcuts on it to satisfy different purposes of working?
I had to first get over my horror at the first point in the list ("overhauled GUI") and am still extremely nervous about that, but all of the other points are pretty surprising and most of them quite welcome for their impact on performance and workflow.
In particular, pre-rendering VI's and bouncing VI's to disc. This could stretch the life of my aging G4 iMac still further and get me over my final performance hump, which is the stubbornness of MOST of the Arturia soft synths to render without crashing (granted, even the older ones prefer a more powerful machine, but ironically I have more trouble with them than the ones whose minimum CPU specs are beyond mine!). A most unexpected feature and worth the price of upgrade on its own.
The one link that I saw for a small image preview scares me though -- very gaudy and distracting colours, like the other DAW's that I rejected in favour of DP oh so many years ago. I LIKE the muted colour scheme of DP and how non-distracting its current interface is. Of course vertical scaling in the mixer window is most welcome, but that is a specific/detail vs. the scary statement that the GUI (and implictly the workflow and way of working with DP) has been overhauled.
Hopefully the hints that I read are wrong and they didn't go to a single-view for working with tracks. I like being able to "switch perspective" (to borrow a term from my primary development tool, Eclipse) from Tracks View to Sequence View etc. IT sounds like they have eliminated this in favour of a single view that is supposed to have enough easy-to-grab shortcuts on it to satisfy different purposes of working?
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- kassonica
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I had this suspicion with the release of 5 and watching the problems etc i decided to wait for 6 also there was nothing i really needed in DP5 to justify upgrading to it but there is in 6.rcannonp wrote:It was a $200 stall tactic. I wish that I could have skipped straight to 6.sdemott wrote: It's almost like they've been working on this and DP5 was a stall tactic to give them the extra time to deliver this killer upgrade.
For once this seems to have payed off
And 4.61 stablity has payed off for me and it still did everything i wanted in a DAW.
I'm most pleased with this update news
Just please PLEASE iron the bugs out of it B4 you release it MOTU and you'll have my business for a long long time
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