Bosendorfer 290 or Akoustik?

westla · Post by **westla** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:49 am

Just wondering what people thought of the EastWest/PM I Bosendorfer 290. I'm thinking of getting it as part of the Composer's Bundle, and was wondering what opinions on it were.

What about Akoustik Piano from NI?

jcfeli · Post by **jcfeli** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:25 pm

I bought it, tried it, uninstalled it, deinstalled my online authorization, and gave the software to a friend, who, until now has used only hardware piano samplers (i.e., an ancient Roland P-55).

I now own and love to use Ivory.

Cheers,

Joe <jcfeli>

westla · Post by **westla** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:03 pm

What would be a better way to go.

EW/PMI Bosendorfer 290 or NI Akoustik Piano?

waterstrum · Post by **waterstrum** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:23 am

I know this is not the answer you are looking for, but I wholeheartedly recommend Ivory.

If you want something that is really playable and will often sound better than the real thing, give it a try.

I've got a nice Yamaha C3 and many of my clients end up using Ivory.
They like being able to edit and the sound is so beautiful that they don't feel that they are compromising anything.

If this is going to be a "piano in the mix", any of the three choices will serve you adequately.
If you are wanting a truly believable solo piano, go with Ivory.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:34 am

Agreed: Ivory is unbelievably good.
Negative: it's currently not updated for Leopard. But it soon will be.

Shooshie

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:01 am

Is BÃ¶sendorfer 290 *that* bad? Honestly, I've heard so little from users about.

+1 oh the Ivory votes. I'd take that one further to say that the Italian Grand is more than a nice add-on. It nearly outdoes the other pianos in the Ivory collection.

I thought that by now I'd have collected a ton of piano libraries, but others have fallen way short. The only other ones I've heard that I really like are PMI's Emperor and Old Lady pianos.

http://www.postpiano.com/tests/Index.htm

Not sure why I've avoided them-- I guess Ivory was the show-stopper.

I think these collections are only about $150 each, max.

toodamnhip · Post by **toodamnhip** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:10 am

Shooshie wrote:Agreed: Ivory is unbelievably good.
Negative: it's currently not updated for Leopard. But it soon will be.

Shooshie

Hey my buddy Shoosh..

Do you have the Italian grand update to Ivory and is it worth it and does it make a big diff?

I have basic Ivory...

emulatorloo · Post by **emulatorloo** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:58 am

Frodo wrote:The only other ones I've heard that I really like are PMI's Emperor and Old Lady pianos.

<SNIP>

I think these collections are only about $150 each, max.

Frodo, Sampletekk is distributing Post's stuff now --

He has Old Lady for $50.00

http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.ph ... 004-FORMAT

Emperor is also $50.00:

http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.ph ... 002-FORMAT

Demo MP3's at those links.
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Sampletekk also tends to run brief 50% off sales occasionally, just for a day or two. (I think we just missed one).

So for example, I got Old Lady for $25.00. Which is totally INSANE, given the high quality of this library.

Their own White Grand and Black Grand are worth looking into as well. I have full White Grand and Close Black Grand. Oh, yeah, Rain Piano for a Beatle-ish upright.

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jlaudon · Post by **jlaudon** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:25 am

Haven't heard the Bos 290, but would not recommend the Akoustik Piano, unless you're looking specifically for an upright (slightly out of tune) sound. I also have Ivory, and Akoustik doesn't come close (IMHO).

westla · Post by **westla** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:29 am

I;m surprised everyone is so down on Akoustik. I remember not too long ago that a magazine (either Keyboard or EM, I think) did a review of all the piano VI's and it rated Akoustik the best.

And last year at NAMM I tried out a bunch of piano VI's and I kind of liked Akoustik, although it's really hard to tell in that hall. Can't remember if I tried Ivory or not.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:02 pm

toodamnhip wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Agreed: Ivory is unbelievably good.
Negative: it's currently not updated for Leopard. But it soon will be.

Shooshie
Hey my buddy Shoosh..

Do you have the Italian grand update to Ivory and is it worth it and does it make a big diff?

I have basic Ivory...

I don't have it. I'd love to get it, because I KNOW it's better. When Frodo makes a statement like " I'd take that one further to say that the Italian Grand is more than a nice add-on. It nearly outdoes the other pianos in the Ivory collection." you can be sure it's the gospel truth. But until the day that it's important enough for me to get it, I'm content with basic Ivory, which is --as he also said-- the show stopper.

Shooshie

HeadMaster · Post by **HeadMaster** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:23 pm

westla wrote:Just wondering what people thought of the EastWest/PM I Bosendorfer 290. I'm thinking of getting it as part of the Composer's Bundle, and was wondering what opinions on it were.

What about Akoustik Piano from NI?

Have a look at this:

http://www.proaudiovault.com/

There you have the most comprehensive sampled piano I have tested so far. Fairly dry samples, and then lots of convolution to select from in order to change the sound, it's brilliant (and it's recorded at skywalker sound/ranch.. that fact itself is a very cool feature..

It's K2 player, with custom "interface" on the library with knobs and buttons for the settings.

. . .
HM

daniel.sneed · Post by **daniel.sneed** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:37 pm

Yes HeadMaster, seems brilliant !
Specialy, the compared low velocities between Ivory and Bluthner is astounding.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:47 pm

emulatorloo wrote:
Frodo wrote:The only other ones I've heard that I really like are PMI's Emperor and Old Lady pianos.

<SNIP>

I think these collections are only about $150 each, max.
Frodo, Sampletekk is distributing Post's stuff now --

He has Old Lady for $50.00

http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.ph ... 004-FORMAT

Emperor is also $50.00:

http://www.sampletekk.com/proddetail.ph ... 002-FORMAT

Demo MP3's at those links.
--

Sampletekk also tends to run brief 50% off sales occasionally, just for a day or two. (I think we just missed one).

So for example, I got Old Lady for $25.00. Which is totally INSANE, given the high quality of this library.

Their own White Grand and Black Grand are worth looking into as well. I have full White Grand and Close Black Grand. Oh, yeah, Rain Piano for a Beatle-ish upright.

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Once again, e-loo comes through with the discount advice.

Brilliant, e-loo. I remember when these libraries were several hundred$ each.

westla · Post by **westla** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:55 pm

Are those PMI piano (OLD LADY and Emperor) on par with Ivory and Akoustik?

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