POLAR vs Live
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POLAR vs Live
A question to any of you who use Ableton Live.
I love POLAR and am incorporating it into a performance piece I am working on.
I understand that in Live you can record audio, create loops and render them, all in real time without stopping.
The question is whether Live can do the same kind of 'sound-on-sound' layering in RAM that POLAR offers. The problem with POLAR is that if you print to tracks whilst playing, there is a momentary drop-out, and then you have to clear the POLAR loop.
While I am not mad about Live's interface, if it can do this it may be useful to me.
I hope this isn't too vague..........
Thanks in advance
kind regards
Stephen
I love POLAR and am incorporating it into a performance piece I am working on.
I understand that in Live you can record audio, create loops and render them, all in real time without stopping.
The question is whether Live can do the same kind of 'sound-on-sound' layering in RAM that POLAR offers. The problem with POLAR is that if you print to tracks whilst playing, there is a momentary drop-out, and then you have to clear the POLAR loop.
While I am not mad about Live's interface, if it can do this it may be useful to me.
I hope this isn't too vague..........
Thanks in advance
kind regards
Stephen
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The stopping of the audio when printing from POLAR is because POLAR is adding a track to the sequence.
If the track is already there for POLAR to print into, you should get no glitch when printing to that track.
So you can create your POLAR audio tracks ahead of time (if you know whether you'll be creating mono or stereo and how many tracks you need).
The tracks need to be named correctly. IE: Polar-1
And of course the track can be play-disabled so you don't get double playback of the audio.
Magic Dave
If the track is already there for POLAR to print into, you should get no glitch when printing to that track.
So you can create your POLAR audio tracks ahead of time (if you know whether you'll be creating mono or stereo and how many tracks you need).
The tracks need to be named correctly. IE: Polar-1
And of course the track can be play-disabled so you don't get double playback of the audio.
Magic Dave
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Thanks Magic D, I'll check it out tomorrow/
Stephen
Stephen
Stephen W Tayler: Sound Artist
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
Yes Live can do this - and it really is a great app for this sort of thing. On one of my gigs I set up 8 or so tracks to record to and insert different FX for each so each iteration of the loop is a bit different. Quantization is very good in Live and MIDI tracks can also work this way.
FWIW and YMMV.
FWIW and YMMV.
Cheers,
Steve da Sleeve
I c a r u s S o u n d
Steve da Sleeve
I c a r u s S o u n d
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Dave, thanks for this, it works well.magicd wrote:So you can create your POLAR audio tracks ahead of time (if you know whether you'll be creating mono or stereo and how many tracks you need).
The tracks need to be named correctly. IE: Polar-1
However, I named a number of tracks (Polar-1, Polar-2 etc) and when I printed the second loop, it appeared over the soundbite on track Polar-1. I was hoping it might increment to the next named track. Obviously I can slide the Polar-1 track soundbite to the next track, but is there a way round this?
kind regards
Stephen
Stephen W Tayler: Sound Artist
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
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Ah, I'm seeing it now, the Pass number relates to the Track number if a number of passes is printed in one go. However if I select only Pass 4, it still prints to the lowest number Track eg. Polar-1.
I shall continue to experiment with the workflow that suits this particular piece I am working on.... it may eventually run on 2 or 3 computers synced together!!!
Now if it could print the Track and delete the Pass in the same move, that would be something, but that might be too much to ask!
Thanks
Stephen
I shall continue to experiment with the workflow that suits this particular piece I am working on.... it may eventually run on 2 or 3 computers synced together!!!
Now if it could print the Track and delete the Pass in the same move, that would be something, but that might be too much to ask!
Thanks
Stephen
Stephen W Tayler: Sound Artist
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
http://www.chimera-arts.com
http://ostinatomusic.com
http://stephentayler.com
Mac Pro 16Gb RAM, OSX 10.10, DP 8, PT 11, Logic 9.1.8, MOTU Traveler, Ultralite Mk 3 Hybrid, MC MIx, MOTU VIs, Waves, Izotope Everything, Spectrasonics, SoundToys, Slate, Softube, NI , spl Surround Monitor Controller, spl Auditor Headphone amp, Genelec 1031A, 1029 5.1 system, Sontronics Mics, iPad etc..
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Re: POLAR vs Live
Nostephentayler wrote:A question to any of you who use Ableton Live.
The question is whether Live can do the same kind of 'sound-on-sound' layering in RAM that POLAR offers.
Stephen
