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POLAR vs Live

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A question to any of you who use Ableton Live.

I love POLAR and am incorporating it into a performance piece I am working on.

I understand that in Live you can record audio, create loops and render them, all in real time without stopping.

The question is whether Live can do the same kind of 'sound-on-sound' layering in RAM that POLAR offers. The problem with POLAR is that if you print to tracks whilst playing, there is a momentary drop-out, and then you have to clear the POLAR loop.

While I am not mad about Live's interface, if it can do this it may be useful to me.

I hope this isn't too vague..........

Thanks in advance

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Post by magicd »

The stopping of the audio when printing from POLAR is because POLAR is adding a track to the sequence.

If the track is already there for POLAR to print into, you should get no glitch when printing to that track.

So you can create your POLAR audio tracks ahead of time (if you know whether you'll be creating mono or stereo and how many tracks you need).

The tracks need to be named correctly. IE: Polar-1

And of course the track can be play-disabled so you don't get double playback of the audio.

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Post by stephentayler »

Thanks Magic D, I'll check it out tomorrow/

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Post by Icarus »

Yes Live can do this - and it really is a great app for this sort of thing. On one of my gigs I set up 8 or so tracks to record to and insert different FX for each so each iteration of the loop is a bit different. Quantization is very good in Live and MIDI tracks can also work this way.

FWIW and YMMV.
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Post by stephentayler »

magicd wrote:So you can create your POLAR audio tracks ahead of time (if you know whether you'll be creating mono or stereo and how many tracks you need).

The tracks need to be named correctly. IE: Polar-1
Dave, thanks for this, it works well.

However, I named a number of tracks (Polar-1, Polar-2 etc) and when I printed the second loop, it appeared over the soundbite on track Polar-1. I was hoping it might increment to the next named track. Obviously I can slide the Polar-1 track soundbite to the next track, but is there a way round this?

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Post by stephentayler »

Ah, I'm seeing it now, the Pass number relates to the Track number if a number of passes is printed in one go. However if I select only Pass 4, it still prints to the lowest number Track eg. Polar-1.

I shall continue to experiment with the workflow that suits this particular piece I am working on.... it may eventually run on 2 or 3 computers synced together!!!

Now if it could print the Track and delete the Pass in the same move, that would be something, but that might be too much to ask!

Thanks

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Re: POLAR vs Live

Post by slipstytch »

stephentayler wrote:A question to any of you who use Ableton Live.




The question is whether Live can do the same kind of 'sound-on-sound' layering in RAM that POLAR offers.
Stephen
No :cry:
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