Liquid Mix has 2 New Assets To Download!!!!!

[Shooshie]

What is so amazing that every studio changes the sound. The room, the board, monitors, patch bays and wiring can make your sound go right in the tank or make it great... I worked in many of the top studios in LA in the 70s 80s and 90s. Some would be magic for about 6 months then they would go down hill. The power supplies on the board and tape machines started going and you could just feel it getting sicker and sicker.

I just noticed something about Bob Katz a day or two ago. I suppose you know who he is, since he's been one of the digital gurus of the mastering world. Anyway, looking at his setup, it resembles someone's living room more than a studio. A bunch of components sitting on a coffee table with wires dangling out the back, all in front of a big, comfortable couch. Then I read that he prefers to patch every unit together manually, with top-quality cables and the least cable possible for any given connection, so that he can avoid patch bays and mixing boards. Everything is as direct as possible. Looks like hell, but sounds as perfect as it can sound.

Shooshie

[Proklaim Recording]

I do not have any of the vintage gear that the Liquid Mix emulates, so I can not say that it reproduces that sound exactly. All I know is that it sure sounds good. It sounds better than anything else I have, which to me makes it very much worth the cost. I hope more of you can try the LM out or get to hear one to give us your opinion. Maybe someone could even do a blind test with some of the real stuff against the LM. I would like to see that done. I would be surprised if the LM came out on top, but then again, for the cost difference I bet it would be close. It sounds good to me so I am happy.
Now, if Waves would just get it together????

PR

[newrigel]

If you look @ the SINTEFEX you'll see that dynamic convolution is not a cheap, and by any means cheesy technology...
If these guy's are tracking into a PT rig and say that the LM isn't up to par then I would expect these guys to be PURLY ANALOG. That means all the way through... so I look at it this way, if you track in analog and it ends up on a CD digitally then in the end every technology is going to add some coloring of the signal... whether it sounds good or not is the issue. In the case of the LM I believe a picture is worth a thousand words he he.. Look @ the success with Altiverb... it has gained an excellent reputation among digital and analog purist alike so it all depends what your going for.
Bang for the buck is what most if not all musicians strive for so these guys that put down everything out there just because they have money to throw away on gear is their business...
I don't think I ever listened to an album and said... that's a Pultec on the lead vocal, or that's a Marshal JCM 100 on that lead, because if I did I'd probably look like an ass when I found out it was done within some cheap DAW... you never know what's being used nowadays so it's the combination of the performance, and all the other talents in a project that make up a kick ass record as a whole not just a vintage piece of gear... so really, it's a subjective topic.

[ECmaj7]

Take a look at what is on the desk in these pictures...

from Digizine


from EM

[waxman]

The coolest quote I read this week and it may have been the Emilio article.

"Because of the tape hiss... Analog is like painting on a white canvas.

Digital is like painting on a transparent canvas."

An excellent analogy from working in photo shop. When I mix there is a relationnship going on and I hear sound in color.

[wurliuchi]

There's always going to be someone who doesn't like something. You can't spend your time worrying about them. Use and do what you like. Remember, we're making music, not performing heart surgery. We have the freedom to experiment and screw up and still enjoy it.

I can't imagine someone not thinking LM isn't a great creative tool to have in the studio. Just watch that you don't overuse stuff just because you have it all at your finger tips. That's the problem I'm hearing nowadays. You don't need to use every color of paint in your collection.

[stephentayler]

Just watch that you don't overuse stuff just because you have it all at your finger tips. That's the problem I'm hearing nowadays. You don't need to use every color of paint in your collection.

Well said!!
I remember when I was a kid that if I mixed all the paint colours together I wound up with brown!!!

kind regards

Stephen (happy LM user, and hopefully a mixer of nice colours!!)

[newrigel]

The nice thing about the LM is you can have more bands that the original EQ's have to get that extra degree of control...
Nothing like a 7 band PULTEC EQP-1 hehe... And the nice thing is you can do it all over the place so you have WAY more tonality than most EQ's have.

[spirit]

Kind of ironic, but wasn't the Distressor (new LM 'assets") originally introduced with the attraction of it being a hardware emulation of hardware? That it could sound like an 1176 (including a "all buttons in" modification) or other limters. And then users found it's own unique character and it is considered desirable for that? Perhaps plug in emulations should be considered like that- They originally set out to emulate something, but if they deviate from what they are emulation those deviations will be found useful in appropriate uses.

An 1176 with a blue stripe sounds slightly differerent than the revisions with a black face- both will work well in a lot of applications, for certain things one will be a little preferable over the other. Maybe a UA or bomb factory plugin will be better in certain instances (though I haven't heard of this yet, they are certainly more convenient, and it takes time for a community of users to explore and define uses for something that might not be found useful).

Because not many are going to be able to have a dozen each Neve 1073's, Pultecs etc., perhaps it is more important as to which plugin of each emulation character seem to be first choice for use over a period of time for someone who has alternatives. In otherwords, someone who has any combination of Waves SSL, URS S EQ, McDSP Channel G and the LM equivalent- which ones do they use and which ones lie unused? And for the American EQ (API) and the British (NEVE 1073range). Someone might like the Neve emulations better than the SSL or vice versa- which is largely taste, but in the same color range how do the different SSl or Neve or API or Pultec emulations compare?

[allemandemusic]

IF you line up 5 models of the same vintage gear and A/B... no matter if its api, neve, trident, and ssl each will sound different from the same model. So which one is the vintage sound?
Waxman's comments are right on the mark. I use LM every day for mixing projects, even for mastering, and I can get what I need from the box. What's sometimes missing for me is a surgical like quality of the EQs in LM, like really steep notches. For that I have found a good plug-in with Roger Nichols' Uniquelizer. So, between LM and the Uniquelizer you can cover a lot of ground...

[waxman]

I don't know how to post an excel file I made but it is very helpful for organizing LM... Also the excel file has comments on each eq and comp. If you want that file pm me and I will send it...

[hugoazevedo]

Hi,

I am hoping one of you can help me, because I desperately need this to work in the next 12 hours and I am pulling my hair out not being able to sort this out!

I've just purchased a Liquid Mix 32 with the specific intent to use the Copy Cat 2 and 3 emulations. Upon installing the emulations found in LiquidMix download page, I found out that only Copy Cat "1" was included.

A quick search on forums told me that Copy Cat 2 and 3 had to be downloaded from the focusrite "Assets" webpage (tried posting link, but can't on my first 7 days of membership) and added to the "Emulations" folder. However, CopyCat file downloaded here (copyCat.42.zip) is 0 Bytes in size and obviously corrupted! I also tried the same file in assets/compressor_emulations but this only had CopyCat, NO CopyCat 2 and 3. In assets/liquid_channel_compressors I did find files for CopyCat 2 and 3, but they are not for Liquid Mix 32 (it should be a .lcp file and it is a .lqc).

Could you please email me the actual emulation files for Copy Cat 2 and 3?
I would be very grateful.

I hope to hear from you soon.
Many thanks in advance!

[hugoazevedo]

Bump, cos I'm really desperate here!
Any help anyone can get me is very welcome!

Thanks!

[stephentayler]

You are right - lqp is for Liquid Channel, not LiquidMix.

Look at the Compressor Emulations here

http://uk.focusrite.com/downloads/asset ... emulations

the .lcp emulations are at the bottom of the page - downloaded fine here

Cheers

Stephen