DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

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Solal
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Solal »

In 'background Pref" try uncheck "Analyse...as soon as possible". Also uncheck "Automatic beat detect". This helped me: I had the same problem and it disappears.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Salvator »

You said that when you're working on a newfile the problem don't occur right ? So maybe a "save a copy" may help... or better a "create new" then "load" (to import your session + soundbites etc...) .

FWIW - That's what I used under OS9 when a DP session were "corupted"
Good luck :-)

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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Pasz »

Originally posted by Solal:
In 'background Pref" try uncheck "Analyse...as soon as possible". Also uncheck "Automatic beat detect". This helped me: I had the same problem and it disappears.
That didn't help :/.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Pasz »

Originally posted by Salvator:
You said that when you're working on a newfile the problem don't occur right ? So maybe a "save a copy" may help... or better a "create new" then "load" (to import your session + soundbites etc...) .

FWIW - That's what I used under OS9 when a DP session were "corupted"
Good luck :-)

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Didn't help either... I am a very, very, very dissapointed DP user. :mad:
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chakbull
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by chakbull »

Hello

i have the same problem.
when i record, then hit stop, then hit play, i got the rainbow of hell.

here's my setup :

G4 sawtooth upgraded 1 ghz (encore/st upgrade card)
1 go RAM
2 HDs : 20go (original guessed to be around 5000 rpm) + 120go (7200 rpm 8mo)
- both DP 4.5 and my audio files are on the same 120 GO HD. will i see better performance by moving DP 4.5 to the small & slower HD ? -
Geforce 32 mo card (Quartz Extreme compatible)
Display colors set to "thousands" (16 bit)
M-Audio Delta 1010LT (cheap card but clean sound and never gave me a single problem)
OS 10.3.7
DP 4.5

I'm working at 16 bit 44 khz

HARDWARE
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buffer size : 1024
host buffer multiplier : 1 (don't know what this option is anyway)
Work priority : high

SETTINGS
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Voices : mono = 0 / stereo = 12 (enough for me)
Stereo buses = 4
Disk r/w size = 300 kbytes
Buffer size per voice = 300 000 samples
Automatic plugin latency compensation = on
Pre-fil blablabla = on

automatic beat detection = off

thanks for any help
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Studio615 »

One thing I noticed that really helped a similar issue was to limit the number of tracks in the project to only what I needed at the time. I had a template with 32 mono tracks and I was only using 8 so far and it would act up. If I added a track or two as needed it reacted alot better. Worth a shot if not, sorry I can't help.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by hitmusicinc »

your Problem is with 10.3.7.Go to Apples web site and download
10.3.6 combo and install it that should fix your problem
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by dix »

I'm seeing the delay too. I'm wondering if it's bus related. Pascal Altena, do you have a very elaborate send/bus system in your files? Do you use a Master Bus as I do? - that's where all tracks are bussed to one Aux for recording (not to be confused w a Master Fader).
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Pasz »

Nope, no elaborate bussing. I'll try reducing the tracks in the studio setup, and if that shouldn't work going back to 10.3.6, later this day!
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

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Reducing tracks didn't help. Going back from 10.3.7 to 10.3.6 actually means reinstalling the whole computer it seems. Or am i wrong?
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by studiodog »

For what it's worth, I had this problem, the 30 sec. to 2 minute beach ball hang when I got 4.5.

I got it when arming an audio track, hitting record, stopping record, etc...

4.51 solved it for me. Strange that 4.51 is the cause in this case.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by dix »

Originally posted by studio dog:
For what it's worth, I had this problem, the 30 sec. to 2 minute beach ball hang when I got 4.5.

I got it when arming an audio track, hitting record, stopping record, etc...

4.51 solved it for me. Strange that 4.51 is the cause in this case.
I think this is a different phenomena. The beach ball while arming tracks etc. WAS buss related. 4.51 fixed this for me too.

Mysteriously, while I *was* getting the same post-record delay as Pascal, I'm not today (?). ...dunno wh'apend.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by jackorhythm »

i found the fix.....

i uninstalled 4.5+4.51 and went back to 4.12. i'll wait for 4.52 to fix this obvious defect.

surefire.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by dix »

jackorythm. Don't know what your setup is, but 4.5 should be ok. It was the most stable version of DP I've ever run. I was among the first to receive it and and did not have a single crash (8-14 hour days!) and had nothing but improved latency issues.
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Re: DP4.51 temporarily unresponsive after stopping recording

Post by Morpheo »

I have the same problem. The most efficient solution for me is to "select unused soundbites", remove from list, and keep the soundbites window CLOSED, unless I need it of course.

???? I have no idea why this works, but it does. kinda reminds me of ProTools (which I haven't used for a long time btw), slowing down with too many sound files....... I hope MOTU will fix this "annoyance" in the next update, 4.12 was fine. And it happened with 4.5 as well, not just 4.51...

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