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Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:20 pm
by alitalnik01
Hi to all people of this interesting forum, I'm a new registered member.
I would like to ask somebody expert of DP 6 in this forum, if they have any idea why Plugins Proverb and MW Equalizer can disappear from the Plugin list in the Mixer board of DP 6.
I've tried to search for this thread but I didn't find anything.
Actually things are even odds since Proverb disappeared completely, and MW Equalizer is still in the list, but you get only (stereo) word within braces without any label .
Both of them are perfectly selected in the DP 6 "Preferences..." and visible in the Macintosh HD>Library>Audio>Plugins>MAS folder.
I've tried to uninstall and reinstall a number of times DP 6.0 and 6.02 and Motu Audio Installer but the problem is still there, I can't get anymore Proverb Plugin and a correct label for MW Equalizer.
Thanks to anybody that could help me,

Marco

Here is a picture of what I'm talking about:
http://ftp.marconiccolai.it/Ztopics/Sch ... .27.11.jpg

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:24 pm
by kassonica
Welcome to the board.

Have you repaired permissions after installing DP?

Did you install DP6 then 6.01 then 6.02?

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:29 pm
by Kubi
I'm assuming the plugs are both indeed inside the MAS folder? This you should verify first. If they indeed are, try the following:

First thing I do whenever DP does anything remotely odd:

Quit DP, then trash the file named "Preferences", here:

user/Library/Preferences/Digital Performer/Preferences

DP will create another one upon relaunch. Fixes 99% of random odd behavior. You will have to recreate whatever custom settings you set have inside DP under Preferences.

Tip: Since this is such a handy fix for DP weirdness, but it's a pain to recreate your custom settings every time, make a backup copy of the entire Digital Performer Preferences folder when everything is working well, and keep it handy. Now instead of merely trashing a corrupt preferences file, you can replace it with a "clean" version by option-dragging it from your backup copy into the preferences folder. This way all your custom settings are remembered and you have a clean preferences file. :D

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:48 pm
by alitalnik01
Thanks to you guys that gave me such a sudden reply.

Kubi: The plugin are indeed regularly in the MAS folder and I've already tried to trash user/Library/Preferences/Digital Performer/Preferences every time before I've reinstalled DP 6. I've also deleted all Plugins in MAS folder before reinstalling DP 6. Unfortunately I didn't make a copy of DP Preferences folder... now I suppose is too late.

Kassonica: No I didn't repair permissions after reinstalled DP. And I've reinstalled DP 6 followed by DP 6.02, I skipped 6.01. I'll try to do it soon tomorrow mornig.

Many Thanks

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:20 pm
by Grigri
Hello!

This is a localization problem in OSX.

The easy fix is to set OSX in English (in the system pref and log out and log on your account)
When OSX is in English, both plugins are there and working

Hope that helps

David

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:02 am
by alitalnik01
YES!!!

Got it! After 2 weeks of pain and lots of messages with Motu Techlinks trying to get something out, less than half a day on this forum has been enough to get things right.

Thank you very much for your help Grigi! (and the others as well)

Sometimes the solution is so close to you that you couldn't imagine. Changed Language, logged out and then logged in again and everything went right.
I didn't notice this problem before installing Snow Leopard, so I think that Snow Leopard could have introduced this. And I also had permission errors when I run Permission Repair with Utility Disk as suggested after reinstalling DP 6.02: (my translations)

2009-10-01 02:56:54 +0200: User is different on "Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/MAS", should be 0, user is 504.
2009-10-01 02:56:54 +0200: Group is different on "Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/MAS", should be 80, group is 20.
2009-10-01 02:56:54 +0200: Permission are different on "Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/MAS", Should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x .
2009-10-01 02:56:54 +0200: Repaired "Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/MAS"

Thanks again to all community,

Marco

How it looks now:
http://ftp.marconiccolai.it/Ztopics/Scr ... .26.29.jpg

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:29 am
by kassonica
Good to hear.

Glad we could help you :D

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:21 am
by charlesparente
Hey alitalnik01,

Now that you have a fix, please respond to your Motu Techlink
to tell MOTU about the solution [which they did not know about].

This way, they might create a tech note on the MOTU website
for the benefit of everyone, since not every DP user is aware of Motunation [pity them!].

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:21 am
by alitalnik01
Of course, I've already done. Just few minutes after the problem has been solved...
Thanks,

Marco

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:34 pm
by Grigri
Hello Marco! I'm glad that it work now :-)
This problem was already there in DP5 and DP6 in Leopard... But now with Snow Leopard, it's persistent.
I hope Motu can fix it and we can use our native language on the computer, but for now, English...

David

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:42 am
by alitalnik01
Yes David, Thank you again.
This kind of bugs are evidently not easy to solve even for Motu Technicians. I'll use my Mac in English It should't be a big hassle anyway.
On the on the other hand DP isn't very common here in Europe and in particular in Italy. Even if 't's a good sequencer, much opened than ProTools and much better than Logic (which in comparison is, more or less, a toy).

Marco

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:05 pm
by Grigri
alitalnik01 wrote:On the on the other hand DP isn't very common here in Europe and in particular in Italy.
Hello Marco!

Yes, I hear you ;-) but let's change this!!
I teach audio and studio in a school, (audio school), there are a lot of young engineers who works on DP now :mrgreen:

Ciao Ciao :D

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:52 pm
by alitalnik01
Nice to know... :wink:

Ciao,
Marco

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:26 am
by marco conti
Hi,
I have the same problem:
-No Proverb
-Mw eq has no name on the insert spot.
-but I also have no eq.
I tryed to operate in English but sometimes it works well, sometimes it doen't...???

Marco
(same name, same country, but different DP user ;-)))
Ciao

Re: Proverb and MW Equalizer disappeared from Plugin list

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:38 pm
by alitalnik01
Hi Marco,
same name, same country, same problem :-)

What I've tried to do is more or less:

- Uninstall DP 6.02 first
- Uninstall DP 6.0 after
- Uninstall Motu Audio Installer (I've an Ultralite MKIII)
- Delete User>Library>Preferences>Digital Performerâ„¢>Preferences
- Delete User>Library>Preferences>com.motu.DigitalPerformer.plist
- Delete Macintosh HD>Library>Audio>Plug-ins>MAS> All files Except not included Instruments (ie Motu Machfive, Ethno instrument etc)
- Restart Computer
- Utility Disco> Repair Permissions
- Reinstall Motu Audio Installer
- Reinstall DP 6.0
- Reinstall DP 6.02
- Utility Disco> Repair Permissions again

Nothing happened up to this point.Finally:

- System Preferences...>Language and Text>Languages>Order for sorted lists: set English

All OK!!
Do not confuse with the keyboard language which doesn't effect DP at all.
Good luck, ciao,

Marco