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by part12studios
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:13 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)
Replies: 11
Views: 931

Re: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)

Also that's cool how you did that recording. i can definitely see how you have everything surprisingly low but the the master out has a nice strong signal. it's almost like there should be a meter that detects how "Wide" the mix is not just how tall it is.. like things are getting saturate...
by part12studios
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:08 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)
Replies: 11
Views: 931

Re: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)

wow that's cool. so that's interesting that clipping could be detected yet the meter not hit the red. So in general though when recording we should still always record as "hot" as possible, but obviously no clipping. the headroom of 24bit is more in the mixing of of a song than the recordi...
by part12studios
Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:43 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)
Replies: 11
Views: 931

Re: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)

that's good to know. i sometimes found myself wondering if the digital summing of DP 3.11 might have issues. Wondering if maybe taking the mixes into an analog board would sound better / offer more headroom, but i do believe just bringing down the collective volumes was all.. i'm just concerned of s...
by part12studios
Sat Jan 09, 2021 1:33 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)
Replies: 11
Views: 931

Re: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)

Hi there, to be more clear this is the thing i'm talking about: https://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-whats-difference-between-floating-and-fixed-point-systems This article is from 2004.. the MOTU 2408mk2 came out circa 2000 and the 828 Mk1 as well.. according to this article it seems that hig...
by part12studios
Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:21 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)
Replies: 11
Views: 931

Fixed-Point vs. Floating-Point Digital Signal Processing (MOTU 2408 and 828?)

I'm just curious if anyone knows if 828 mk1 or 2408 mk2 are fixed or floating.

I'm not sure what year exactly this became a thing.. original fixed was normal but floating was introduced at some point. i'm not clear when.

Thanks,
Caleb
by part12studios
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: General Macintosh
Topic: SMPTE syncing and MIDI TIME PIECE AV Question
Replies: 0
Views: 1210

SMPTE syncing and MIDI TIME PIECE AV Question

Hi everyone, so just as a sanity check. does the SMPTE OUT just constantly output a stripping audio signal while in "play" mode from a given DAW like DP 1.7 or 3.1 to record too.. and then any playback on said striping track if directed into the SMPTE IN and DP set to slave to smpte just k...
by part12studios
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:48 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

that's what i figured and thats my basic logic for why i compare the 2408mk2 with the 828 original. I'll dig in this weekend.
by part12studios
Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:16 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

wow that's good to know. nope i'm not an original owner unfortunately of any of the fine MOTU hardware unfortunately so no luck there. That said, I want to double check on what you said. the 2408mk2 and the 828mk2 have the same hardware.. however the 2408mk can only go up to 48khz.. while the 828mk2...
by part12studios
Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

gotcha, but what about the cuemix chip? does that bring something sonically superior to the 324? how so? takes load of CPU? does a better job summing the digital signals?
by part12studios
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:27 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

i couldn't find a distinct review of the 2408mk2 but I saw that the 828 original came out in 2001.. the original 2408 was 1999.. and the 2408mk3 came out in 2003.. so it seems reasonable to say that the 2408mk2 had to be very close to the 828 original.. i'll see if i can do some quick pepsi challeng...
by part12studios
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:16 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

oh wow yea even better. when i recently got the G5, it came with the 828 (original) so I know those thankfully keep working. So what is special about the 424 with it's cuemix chip? does the 324 lack this? So I guess before I can make the final call I'm going to have to A/B/C the 828 original, 2408 m...
by part12studios
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

interesting. was the 2408 mk2 on a 424 or a 324? would that even make a difference? I'm thinking not.. but curious.. i see something on the 424 saying "cuemix" dsp.. what's that about? the 324 doesn't have cuemix? what is special about cuemix? what is it doing that i haven't done before wi...
by part12studios
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:24 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

thanks for that pointer, I was not aware of that. However, that's another reason i'm kinda jumping ship on that.. because have you price checked a 424? :) Insane prices.. i guess they are that rare and that good? Not sure I understand what all the fuss is. It's what, got 4 slots for interfaces inste...
by part12studios
Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

Re: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

i was talking about the 828 mk1 (original), yes the 828 mk2 is a step up for sure! i'm comparing the 2408 mk2 vs the 828 (original) my 2408 (have two actually to have 16 in/out, but deemed overkill) work great, but the precious PCI slot in my Quicksilver is needed for a SCSI card. I feel like the 24...
by part12studios
Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: MOTU Hardware & MacOS
Topic: 2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?
Replies: 22
Views: 4288

2408 mk2 vs 828 Original, same hardware under the hood?

Does the MOTU 828 Mk1 (original) pretty much have the same guts as the 2408 mk2? They seem very similar in specs: - balanced 1/4" in/outs. - They both have 24-bit / 48khz max - 8 in / 8 out (not counting 2408's support for more via 324/424) - being generally released around the same time. Just ...