Sonoma 14.4 crash/kernel panic/reboot with Kontakt 7

[chrisdm1978]

Interesting regarding beta 3...I may just hove to move there once I complete this project I'm in the middle of if they don't get the official out before then. I moved the project over to Logic, no crashes with Kontakt 7 and guitar rig pro 7. But If any of you use Virharmonic Libraries....bohemain violin and bohemian cello, I get crashing issues with those plugins which use their own bespoke plugin engine. Sometimes Logic will crash and allow you to recover, others it will beach ball like DP... Looks like Virharmonic have some work to do for Sonaoma....to be honest their libraries have always been a pain to work with...but they sound really good so I put up with it. Spending some time in Logic really makes me appreciate MIDI and audio workflow in DP.

[mikehalloran]

Here are the release notes from NI's web site:

The currently available software version is 7.10.1. Please make sure that your installation is up to date.

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7.10.1 - 2024-04-19

ADDED Electric Grand EQ and tremolo modes to EP Preamps effect

IMPROVED Notification when an Instrument’s license is invalid

IMPROVED Instruments no longer deselect when clicking level meter or blank space in the instrument header when in Single View

FIXED Crash when rapidly switching presets during playback in Logic Pro

FIXED Crash when replacing Daft filter with any other filter with more than 8 voices playing simultaneously

FIXED Step Modulator no longer loses all displayed steps after adjusting parameters

ADDED KSP Engine parameters for Flex Envelope modulator (number of stages, loop start, loop end, per-stage time, level, slope)

ADDED KSP Built-in variables for system date and time

IMPROVED KSP Waveforms in 3D mode of ui_wavetable widget now correctly display wavetable shaper adjustments

IMPROVED KSP Effect edit panels in Instrument Edit mode now correctly update their UI upon certain engine parameter changes

KNOWN ISSUE Intermittent crashes when Kontakt 7 is used with the following combination: Logic Pro, macOS 14, Kontrol S MK3. Apple are working on a fix for this communication layer crash

KNOWN ISSUE Text fields in Rack View do not receive certain keystrokes whilst the Edit View is shown. This issue was introduced in Kontakt 7.9.0, and will be addressed in a future update

KNOWN ISSUE Please note that if you have updated to Kontakt 7.10 from a version before 7.9, you may need to reselect your audio device on first launch (macOS only)

KNOWN ISSUE In Pro Tools, Kontakt window is cropped when zooming larger than available display size

KNOWN ISSUE Crash on launching Kontakt standalone if Canon EOS webcam utility software is installed

However, when I click on the Release notes from inside Native Access, I get this:

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I am speculating that Kontakt 7.10.1 is actually 7.9.0 and only available to those of us who had installed 7.10.

[HCMarkus]

I am speculating that Kontakt 7.10.1 is actually 7.9.0 and only available to those of us who had installed 7.10.

A new spin on "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

[mikehalloran]

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Big Update: So.. somehow I have a stable system for several days now. I am using Sonoma 14.5 beta (i did not update to beta 2 or 3) with DP 11.31 and Kontakt 7.10.1 on M2 Pro Max, This combination seems to do the trick for me. I haven't had any crashes and everything is working properly as it should. I'll post back when/if it starts having problems again.

It was not my intention to be the canary in the coal mine on this. Had Kontakt been my only concern, I would have stayed put at 14.5 beta 1 — and that is my recommendation.

It was trying to see if Antares and Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 would work (nope) that pushed me into beta 2 and then beta 3 when Kontakt broke again.

[waterstrum]

It was trying to see if Antares and Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 would work (nope) that pushed me into beta 2 and then beta 3 when Kontakt broke again.

Hey Mike,

You mentioned Antares.
I've been going nuts trying to get their stuff working again.
Is this another M2 Mac Studio Sonoma casualty?

BTW, thanks for all of your great work and insight.
Much appreciated!

[HCMarkus]

If you need Antares Auto Tune, which is priced way too high IMO, Waves Tune Live is, also IMO, far better and available for a lot less cash if you don't hate Waves.

[mikehalloran]

It was trying to see if Antares and Adobe Acrobat Pro 2020 would work (nope) that pushed me into beta 2 and then beta 3 when Kontakt broke again.

Hey Mike,

You mentioned Antares.
I've been going nuts trying to get their stuff working again.
Is this another M2 Mac Studio Sonoma casualty?

BTW, thanks for all of your great work and insight.
Much appreciated!

Antares is not working over Sonoma for anyone as far as I know. The issue is that their plugs cannot verify the licenses. The license manager opens but no-go. Apple Silicon is not the issue.

[mikehalloran]

If you need Antares Auto Tune, which is priced way too high IMO, Waves Tune Live is, also IMO, far better and available for a lot less cash if you don't hate Waves.

I have never liked Waves but I don't like Auto-Tune either and have found other apps that do what I need. There's a permanent license upgrade to v. 10 but I have no interest in it v. 9 is still supported.

Auto-Tune EFX+ has its uses and 9.2.1 is supposedly still supported but if there's no permanent license upgrade, I'll let it go. I can use a plug that tunes in real time. Brainworx bx_crispytuner shows promise for what I want and is only $24.98 for me. I'll be testing it soon.

My AVOX 4 suite is the one that frustrates me. There is no upgrade and I do use some of those plug-ins. I don't really want to keep a Ventura Volume going just to be able to use it.

I hope that going to that asinine CodeMeter licensing scheme saved them a lot of money. It has certainly lost them customers and I am expecting to join that list. Sometimes, I feel like driving the 25 minutes to Santa's Village Rd, (yes, really) just to yell at someone.

[joelfriedman]

Joining in VERY late, I’m still on Intel and IS 13.6.6. I have not updated NI since I disinherited a project in February. I had many Kontakt crashes and instances going blank then but limped through. Should I go to NA and update or leave it alone for a while. I’m thinking this is mainly an AS +OS 14x+NI (and other) problem so I might be ok. Any confirmation?

I’ve been reading this read with keen interest. Thanks to all for doing this.


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[James Steele]

Not necessarily helpful, but I have to share this funny meme I saw on another forum:

[waterstrum]

I hope that going to that asinine CodeMeter licensing scheme saved them a lot of money. It has certainly lost them customers and I am expecting to join that list. Sometimes, I feel like driving the 25 minutes to Santa's Village Rd, (yes, really) just to yell at someone.

I've exchanged about 20 emails with Antares tech support, trying to get the plugins working.
Detailed stuff like renaming folders within CodeMeter... many steps.
They didn't mention that Antares plugs don't work on Sonoma and they know that's what I'm using.
Very frustrating!
I've tried in vain to find a phone number to actually speak to someone.

Please go to Santa's Village and give them coal for their stockings.

[waterstrum]

If you need Antares Auto Tune, which is priced way too high IMO, Waves Tune Live is, also IMO, far better and available for a lot less cash if you don't hate Waves.

That's a great idea!
I already have that plug and forgot about it.
Seems to be a great solution.
Thanks!

[joelfriedman]

James,

Your meme was very helpful: If we don’t laugh, we cry.


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[randps]

Kontakt7/MOTU DP/Loopback and pd are all running together rock solid for me since I installed 14.5 Beta 2 - no more crashes.

Has anyone run Kontakt7 as a plugin in DP under Beta 3?

[tremo]

Antares is not working over Sonoma for anyone as far as I know. The issue is that their plugs cannot verify the licenses. The license manager opens but no-go. Apple Silicon is not the issue.

Are you guys saying that Antares plugins aren't working in DP/Sonoma or Sonoma in general? The only Antares product I still use is Harmony Engine (latest, 4.4.1), and it's working fine for me in Studio One 6.6 and Logic 10.8.1, on Sonoma 14.4.1. (Sorry, I don't have DP 10 installed on this Mac to test.) Shows as authorized in Antares Central. I originally had the iLok version, but switched to Antares' new auth system... maybe last year? Does the fact that I authorized it on Ventura explain why it works on Sonoma for me?