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MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:15 am
by Worlingham
Hi all,
Just got my old(ish) MOTU Traveler MK1 out of its box, but it's acting strange. I've tried everything online to no luck, was wondering if any old heads might have some pointers:
Basically when it turns on, startup screen goes:
'MOTU Traveler' then 'CueMixDSP' then nothing....(and not picked up by PC).
However*** Every so often it just works perfectly, starts up, initialises (and then I hear the relays click to properly finish it turning on) and it works amazingly. However this is only every 20 tries or so. Otherwise it's just MOTU Traveler - CueMixDSP and then nothing. I haven't noticed any patterns with when it actually turns on.
Have tried wiggling everything around, tried other cables etc, taken in apart and replaced some of the slightly bulged caps....but no improvement. Anyone have any bright ideas?? I don't!
My best guess is that this is something wrong with the cuemix dsp chip??
Regards,
Worlingham
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:23 am
by mikehalloran
Heat is the enemy and bulged caps confirm it. Power supply, circuit board, burnt resistors, cold solder joints can all be sources — all are off the shelf components but MOTU has never published schematics or parts lists.
The CueMix chip is proprietary of course. MOTU is adamant that they no longer support discontinued gear.
My only recommendation is to burnish all internal connectors and IC sockets by dissembling and reconnecting three times. It's a Hail Mary but sometimes works. You might see some corrosion or problem in the process.
If that doesn't do it — and it probably won't, time to ask yourself: What is my time worth? and go interface shopping. NAMM is in a few weeks. MOTU won't be exhibiting but others will. Pay attention to the announcements. Perhaps something new will appeal to you. Other times, new gear will cause the current offerings to go on sale.
I notice this is your first post. Welcome! We are a Users group and not affiliated with MOTU. This allows us not to toe the company line regarding your options.
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:28 am
by Worlingham
Thanks very much for the reply and the welcome! Guess I'll be going and giving things a wiggle....
W
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:55 pm
by Worlingham
mikehalloran wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 11:23 am
Heat is the enemy and bulged caps confirm it. Power supply, circuit board, burnt resistors, cold solder joints can all be sources — all are off the shelf components but MOTU has never published schematics or parts lists.
The CueMix chip is proprietary of course. MOTU is adamant that they no longer support discontinued gear.
My only recommendation is to burnish all internal connectors and IC sockets by dissembling and reconnecting three times. It's a Hail Mary but sometimes works. You might see some corrosion or problem in the process.
If that doesn't do it — and it probably won't, time to ask yourself: What is my time worth? and go interface shopping. NAMM is in a few weeks. MOTU won't be exhibiting but others will. Pay attention to the announcements. Perhaps something new will appeal to you. Other times, new gear will cause the current offerings to go on sale.
I notice this is your first post. Welcome! We are a Users group and not affiliated with MOTU. This allows us not to toe the company line regarding your options.
Interesting (but positive) development Mike. I removed the (header pin connected) DSP IC and now it all works perfectly every time. Presumably this removes the CueMix DSP ability, but I don't need that anyway!
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 1:17 pm
by HCMarkus
Nice work Worlingham. Thanks for reporting back!
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:44 pm
by mikehalloran
Worlingham wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 12:55 pm
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Interesting (but positive) development Mike. I removed the (header pin connected) DSP IC and now it all works perfectly every time. Presumably this removes the CueMix DSP ability, but I don't need that anyway!
Yes, thanks for the follow up!
Did you try replacing the chip to see if it still works? If so, corrosion would be the suspect—doesn't take much.
Otherwise, I bet there's a ton of old, non-functioning interfaces using that same chip waiting for you to one find in
"non-working, parts only" condition that can be picked up for a song.
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 5:44 pm
by James Steele
mikehalloran wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 2:44 pmOtherwise, I bet there's a ton of old, non-functioning interfaces using that same chip waiting for you to one find in
"non-working, parts only" condition that can be picked up for a song.
This! I often see Travelers for sale at ridiculous prices. I would just get another, or find a "for parts only" unit to cannibalize. eBay is often good for the latter!
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:39 pm
by Worlingham
So yes, I put the chip in and all works fantastically well. I don't like to deliberate, but I suspect it's something to do with the header pin connection to the TI DSP chip or a another connector like you say! I did replace the burnt out (somehow) LCD LED (wasn't much fun to solder) also and now have a lovely bright green display again....
Re: MOTU Traveler acting strange...
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:43 pm
by mikehalloran
Worlingham wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:39 pm
So yes, I put the chip in and all works fantastically well. I don't like to deliberate, but I suspect it's something to do with the header pin connection to the TI DSP chip or a another connector like you say! I did replace the burnt out (somehow) LCD LED (wasn't much fun to solder) also and now have a lovely bright green display again....
That LCD backlight is a known trouble spot. Tons of threads here and on Gearspace about this.
Be careful, you may become ground zero for everyone having issues with these.
Seriously, this is good news and thanks for getting back to us.