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Any news or rumors in the wind?

I'm thinking of upgrading to DP11 for Windows, but of course don't want to do that just before the grace period for DP12 might begin.

k410 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:36 am Any news or rumors in the wind?

I'm thinking of upgrading to DP11 for Windows, but of course don't want to do that just before the grace period for DP12 might begin.

DP 11 is a little over 2 years old. It would surprise most of us if they released 12 before three years. My crystal ball says NAMM 2025 but it's just a guess.

Normally, MOTU announces at the January NAMM show (if they attend) though the release date can be anywhere from the following March – October. Again, normally, anyone purchasing the previous version between the announcement and release date will receive the update at no charge.

We are not MOTU so all we can go on is what has happened in the past. Any upgrade policy is at their sole discretion.

Funny, I came across the MOTU cutoff date for 11 a few days ago but can't find it now. There was no NAMM show in 2021.

As usual Mike nailed it, the typical cycle is three years, you can look at the DP wiki and see the pattern.

It might be best to wait if the recent cycle stays.

January 2019 DP10
July 2021 DP11

that's 2 1/2 years, but older announcements have been almost exactly three years. If this pattern stays, they indeed announce DP12 at 2024 NAMM which would be exactly 2 1/2 years from DP11.

Seems like Matt almost, sort of, vaguely implied an update was on the horizon recently in a webinar. Also, there have been major .5 updates (unpaid) in the past. I don’t recall how frequently those arrive in the cycle when they do arrive.

Thank you all for your replies!

dix wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:46 pm Seems like Matt almost, sort of, vaguely implied an update was on the horizon recently in a webinar. Also, there have been major .5 updates (unpaid) in the past. I don’t recall how frequently those arrive in the cycle when they do arrive.

Hopefully there will be an 11 update that addresses the Sonoma issue.

mikehalloran wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:25 am

dix wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:46 pm Seems like Matt almost, sort of, vaguely implied an update was on the horizon recently in a webinar. Also, there have been major .5 updates (unpaid) in the past. I don’t recall how frequently those arrive in the cycle when they do arrive.

Hopefully there will be an 11 update that addresses the Sonoma issue.

Matt did in fact mention that as a thing in the last webinar.

Hi, does anyone know if the DP12 release date was mentioned at Namm ? I am on DP10 and very hesitant to move on DP11 now…

aq wrote:Hi, does anyone know if the DP12 release date was mentioned at Namm ? I am on DP10 and very hesitant to move on DP11 now…

MOTU was not at NAMM this year and nothing has been mentioned. Even if a DP12 release was imminent, there is usually a grace period during which the upgrade to it would be free if you recently upgraded to DP11.

Yes but... Last time I upgraded to DP10 in February 2021. When DP11 came out 5 month later I was not elligible for the grace period. It was quite frustrating. I think I'll wait this time.

aq wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 9:12 am Yes but... Last time I upgraded to DP10 in February 2021. When DP11 came out 5 month later I was not elligible for the grace period. It was quite frustrating. I think I'll wait this time.

At this point you should.
this is the version number, when it was Introduced, Month and Year, time Between versions (hopefully this is readable)

4
4-2 2003

3 y 5 m

5
9 2006

2 y 2 m

6
11 2008

1 y

7
9-14 2009

3 y

8
9-26 2012

2 y 11 m

9
8-21 2015

3 y 6 m

10
2 2019

2 y 5 m

11
7-7 2021


It's now February 2024 2y 7 m (so far), so longer than 10 to 11.
I would guess by June we see DP12.

I just saw that you are on windows. From what I’ve read, windows doesn’t suffer from as frequent updates that break things with applications. So perhaps, there is no harm in waiting if DP 10 is working for you now. If you were on a Mac on the other hand, especially an Apple Silicon Macthen I would say you should consider doing it anyway. It’s up to you. If you are getting your work done in DP 10 then I suppose you can hang tight.

I'm guessing NAMM 2025

HCMarkus wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:09 am I'm guessing NAMM 2025

That would be the longest time between updates ever.
With that in mind I'm sticking with June, plenty of times MOTU announced a beta at January Namm, then delivered May/June. They haven't done that in a while, preferring to announce and release on the same day or close to. June would put them at a bit over three years.

Michael Canavan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:22 pm

HCMarkus wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:09 am I'm guessing NAMM 2025

That would be the longest time between updates ever.
With that in mind I'm sticking with June, plenty of times MOTU announced a beta at January Namm, then delivered May/June. They haven't done that in a while, preferring to announce and release on the same day or close to. June would put them at a bit over three years.

Based on your chart, would be pretty much tied with the 9 to 10 period. I'm just hoping for a few more quick updates to address a couple of things in the meantime, regardless.

I'm thinking Atmos may be the next big thing for a paid DP update.