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Sonoma pretty much jacks up the ability to pick colors. See the graphic below. That's what you see now if you choose swatches. You can scroll through it but you won't see all colors represented. Picking colors is totally jacked up. Now we shall see if Adobe will release an update, or conveniently skip it to push folks like me into subscription?

P.S. I looked and there is no "Open using Rosetta" option for Photoshop Elements. Perhaps it's already Intel only. That's likely it. Was hoping if it was AS-native, I might get lucky and Rosetta would fix it.

Since Elements 2023 has been out for awhile, I doubt that Adobe is going to do anything about that.

I’ll load 2023 onto our MBAir and see if it does the same. In the mean time, you should read this thread including the last post.
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photosh ... p/13419488

I will upgrade to Sonoma before attempting the installation. Hopefully, I won’t run into that issue.

James Steele wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:06 pm Sonoma pretty much jacks up the ability to pick colors. See the graphic below. That's what you see now if you choose swatches. You can scroll through it but you won't see all colors represented. Picking colors is totally jacked up. Now we shall see if Adobe will release an update, or conveniently skip it to push folks like me into subscription?

P.S. I looked and there is no "Open using Rosetta" option for...

Turns out that I have Photoshop/Premiere Elements 2022 and 2023 installed on that M1 MBAir. I had to wait for Creative Cloud to update 2023, then I opened both in Monterey and Swatches behaved normally as it should.

I then ran the Sonoma update. 2023 behaved while 2022 gave the same results you got. I didn't see an "Open using Rosetta" option for either version in Monterey or Sonoma, either.

I don't recall upgrade pricing being available. In the past, I've always found better pricing than Adobe somewhere,

I need to see if I can buy an upgrade from 2022 to 2023. I wasn’t even aware there was a 2023!!!

Ahhh you said no upgrade. I guess I’ll have to see if I can buy 2023 online at a good price somewhere. I have no desire to get on the Adobe subscription bandwagon, however. Hopefully I can get PS Elements 2023 outright.

Looks like there is an upgrade. $80. I went ahead and popped for it. I really can't live without a working Photoshop app. Just wondering if there's an uninstaller for 2022 so I can get it complete removed before I install 2023?

Answered my own question! There IS an uninstaller. Hooray. And it asks you if you'd like to keep the prefs first which I assume will transfer over to 2023. Nice, Adobe! And I like companies that include uninstallers. Wish more did!

Glad to help. I bought last December. I always buy the Premiere/Photoshop Elements bundle at EDU pricing and never remember how I get there from one year to the next. Normally, I don’t upgrade every year but Premiere Elements 2022 had major issues in Monterey so I bit the bullet—I found it faster for my church videos than Premiere or FCPx. And it includes Photoshop Elements so what’s not to like?

Elements has no Subscription model—standalone only. There’s telephone support if you need it.

Just an update. I realized that Photoshop Elements 2024 was released on October 18 apparently. I paid for the upgrade to Photoshop Elements 2023 on October 1st. Figuring I had nothing to lose, I got on Adobe's website and started a chat with support and basically asked if because I had bought it only a couple weeks prior to 2024 coming out, and I surely would have waited and bought 2024 if I had known its release was imminent, could they make any upgrade accommodation for me?

Well... it doesn't hurt to ask. They gave me a free upgrade and serial number for Photoshop Elements 2024. As trivial as it may seem... my favorite feature of 2024 so far is Dark Mode support! Anyway... again... "it never hurts to ask." I didn't think a gigantic corporation like Adobe would help me out, but they did. Go figure!

Way to go, James!

in my case, EDU for the Photoshop+Premiere Elements Bundle is the same as upgrading Premiere Elements only so which pathway to take is a no brainer. Since my wife never opens her school district email, I've learned that declaring myself a private instructor is acceptable to Adobe. Downloading as I write this.

Thanks for the heads up!