bayswater wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 6:06 pm
Michael Canavan wrote: ↑Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:13 pm
... if anyone else is running into live performance issues and track stacking, it's best to use the Activity monitor in multi core CPU mode to see where cores are distributing CPU. Couple that with the Effect Performance Window in DP and you can narrow down any issues.
Interesting topic. Perhaps one can ask, after decades of advances in computing, when will we reach the point where those who want to do more than watch kitten videos can function without perpetual trouble shooting.
IMO and this is going to be a bit controversial I suppose, the problem is people want to do complex tasks, and have it just work. Computers are multi task all purpose tools, they weren't designed specifically to perform live concerts, manage large studios, edit 3D graphics etc. but they can be set up to do those things.
I don't think Peter's annoyance is unjustified. He had a Mac that ran his projects fine; he bought a better faster one, and it didn't. At this late date, why should he have to delve into the technical details of computing to figure this out? I could have figured this out, and I expect Peter could have too, but should he have to? Maybe he should have stuck with it a little longer. I've had a similar experience with recent OS updates. You get it installed and start thinking about all the stuff that doesn't work as it did and think "do I need this right now?". No: "command-delete". Print the Amazon return address label. Back to useful work.
Peter never fully explained what was "wrong" at one point saying it ran the same as, at another saying it didn't work. Nothing about his post was about asking for help, just complaining, and coming up with his own conclusions.
I blame engineering. Consider the example of cars. Engineers developed standards so that if you mastered a few simple skills, once you drive one car, you can drive any other. If you drive on one road you can drive just about anywhere. It doesn't matter where you go, the basic skills will get you there. We haven't reached that point with computers. Apple had a stab with "just works", but it was little more than a dig at incompetence at MS. I've asked engineers why there is no effective equivalent to SAE in computing. The answer is that people who make computers don't give a #@^*. Someone else will deal with it. Even when they do establish a standard, it doesn't last long. They still think if they do thing differently from everyone else they get some sort of competitive advantage.
A car is a single task tool, a computer is not. Therein lies the problem, you have to set up a computer to perform complex tasks, a car always does one thing, drive.
Some people enjoy delving into these things, but others look on computers as appliances that sit in the background that should just do what they should. It's good to have people interested in covering for those who make computers. They do a lot of work and don't get paid.
I mostly love that people like to help other people, this is great, it's easy when you're using programs like DP that have a thousand page manual to get lost. The problem is we're constantly subject to people that find a "problem", come to a conclusion, then resist all attempts at help that might contradict their conclusion. This unfortunately happens a lot with older users, people get set in their ways, I'm as guilty of it as others here. I have an early 30's person around me a lot and they grew up with technology, they work around bugs and issues without anger or rants. I'm making a generalization and all generalizations are hyperbole, but there is truth to this. This isn't the first rant proposed as a cry for help prompting support posts, where the user had already come to their conclusions and ignored all advice that has been posted here.
Maybe if we got to the point where it "just works", we could rise to James' goal of spending more our time here telling each other about DP tips.
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make them drink. You cannot help someone who refuses to understand how computers work, work a computer.
Or more precisely, you cannot help someone who trickles information about their problem to you, then argues with you about the issue that they haven't even fully defined.
M2 Studio Ultra, RME Babyface FS, Slate Raven Mti2, NI SL88 MKII, Linnstrument, MPC Live II, Launchpad MK3. Hundreds of plug ins.
And yes... a laptop should be considered in that plan, but just not at a point where I want to run my studio off a laptop. I know it can be done... nothing against it... I'm just more comfortable with a desktop type machine for that.