Paste or Merge at Wiper—SOLVED
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Paste or Merge at Wiper—SOLVED
Hey folks.......
I'm doing a project (solo guitar album) where I'm just using DP as an audio recorder without reference to measures-beats-ticks (most of my pieces are rubato and don't follow a strict tempo).
When I'm editing audio in the Sequence Editor and paste or merge at Wiper, the soundbite doesn't paste at the wiper, but usually a second or two afterwards. I'm guessing this is DP trying to maintain the relationship of the bite to the tempo and time signature, even though I'm not paying attention to them. Is there any way to turn this off, so the soundbites come in where I want them—i.e. without respect to the original measure/beat they may have been recorded at?
I'm doing a project (solo guitar album) where I'm just using DP as an audio recorder without reference to measures-beats-ticks (most of my pieces are rubato and don't follow a strict tempo).
When I'm editing audio in the Sequence Editor and paste or merge at Wiper, the soundbite doesn't paste at the wiper, but usually a second or two afterwards. I'm guessing this is DP trying to maintain the relationship of the bite to the tempo and time signature, even though I'm not paying attention to them. Is there any way to turn this off, so the soundbites come in where I want them—i.e. without respect to the original measure/beat they may have been recorded at?
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Have you tried pasting with grid turned off?
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Are there fades on the soundbite causing the delay?
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Wild guess... pre-record or whatever it's called is making soundbite start time prior to actually engaging record...
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Thanks (should have mentioned this), but all grids are *off*.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Nope—no fades on the soundbite I've copied.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Hold down the Command key when you click on the exact location of the Paste. This bypasses the grid. Nudge settings can be getting in your way—again, the Command key is your friend when dragging a soundbite to an exact location.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Thanks, Mike… but can this be applied when I want to just "Paste at Wiper" or "Merge at Wiper"?mikehalloran wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:47 am Hold down the Command key when you click on the exact location of the Paste. This bypasses the grid. Nudge settings can be getting in your way—again, the Command key is your friend when dragging a soundbite to an exact location.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
I never use measures and beats, for the same reason. Does it behave the same if you make a small selection, by clicking where you want the soundbite to start (in an empty track) and dragging slightly to the right? I often do that, and the soundbite pretty much always goes at the spot I've selected. Then if needed I adjust it by using the arrow keys, which (when grid is turned off) move the sound bite one pixel at whatever magnification you currently have.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Yeah… everything is turned off. No problems dragging stuff around, just when I paste from one group of tracks to another group of similar tracks.RodneySauer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:31 pm I never use measures and beats, for the same reason. Does it behave the same if you make a small selection, by clicking where you want the soundbite to start (in an empty track) and dragging slightly to the right? I often do that, and the soundbite pretty much always goes at the spot I've selected. Then if needed I adjust it by using the arrow keys, which (when grid is turned off) move the sound bite one pixel at whatever magnification you currently have.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
On a hunch—I tried removing Waves Greg Wells MixCentric from my mix buss. Now the files paste where I want them.
That plugin must do some goofy stuff, but it does add a little nice fairy dust to a mix.
That plugin must do some goofy stuff, but it does add a little nice fairy dust to a mix.
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
I don't use this much but recall it working OK. Just tried it. Whether the grid was on or off, it worked as expected. Wherever I have the cursor, that's where the left edge of the pasted soundbite goes.
Here is what I did:
1. Drag two soundbites into two tracks.
2. Select one of the soundbites
3. Select the track with the other soundbite
4. Move the wiper to some place in the middle of the soundbite in the now selected track.
5. Paste at wiper.
Repeat with grid off, and with wiper in various places, and after trimming the edges of the soundbite in various places.
Works in every instance.
I thought it might have something to do with sync points, but I tried editing them and it made no difference, The paste happened according to the left edge of the soundbite, putting it at the wiper, regardless of the placing of the sync point.
Are there other details in what you're doing that might shed light on why it's not working for you? Does the same thing happen if you create an insertion point and paste?
Here is what I did:
1. Drag two soundbites into two tracks.
2. Select one of the soundbites
3. Select the track with the other soundbite
4. Move the wiper to some place in the middle of the soundbite in the now selected track.
5. Paste at wiper.
Repeat with grid off, and with wiper in various places, and after trimming the edges of the soundbite in various places.
Works in every instance.
I thought it might have something to do with sync points, but I tried editing them and it made no difference, The paste happened according to the left edge of the soundbite, putting it at the wiper, regardless of the placing of the sync point.
Are there other details in what you're doing that might shed light on why it's not working for you? Does the same thing happen if you create an insertion point and paste?
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Re: Paste or Merge at Wiper
Goofy for sure. That shouldn't influence where DP pastes data.Rick Cornish wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:58 pm On a hunch—I tried removing Waves Greg Wells MixCentric from my mix buss. Now the files paste where I want them.
That plugin must do some goofy stuff, but it does add a little nice fairy dust to a mix.
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