Native Access 2 is available for download

[James Steele]

Wasn't where to put this, so I put it here for now.

I came across this quite by accident while visiting an NI forum of some sort. That's the only way I knew about it. I guess it's new and hasn't been pushed out, but if you want to install it and get rid of the big white older version, go here:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/s ... -access-2/

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR M1 MAC USERS: It looks like some M1 Mac users are having issues with product activation with Native Access 2, so you should follow these instructions for keeping both versions on your M1 Mac for now: https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... 5955318673

For Intel users (like me... for now)... I kept both by renaming the existing "Native Access" app to "Native Access 1" and then copying over the new Native Access app from the disc image.

Here's the FAQ about it. I guess it's been available since July 1?

https://community.native-instruments.co ... cess-2-faq

[James Steele]

Just as follow up, and this is only on INTEL MACS... it seems that I can have both the original Native Access app and the new one both in the Applications folder so long as the original one is renamed before installing the newer one. I test it and I can run either one and they both work. If you have an M1 Mac, there's a different method to have both versions on your Mac at once. See my previous post for the link. NI recommends doing this for now.

One thing I *did* notice is that in Native Access 2, I don't see any of the older instruments/plugs with the orange "Repair" option next to them like I do in Native Access 1. Those just don't appear at all in Native Access 2.

[Michael Canavan]

I think I'm going to wait until NI get it together to update, I'm mostly using an M1 Air so I don't get why I would want to go through using two different installers and jump through all those hoops to get them to work just for some search options?

[James Steele]

Just putting it out there.

[HCMarkus]

Just putting it out there.

Sounds like that's exactly what NI did, too.

[stubbsonic]

Just putting it out there.

Sounds like that's exactly what NI did, too.

[James Steele]

Just putting it out there.

Sounds like that's exactly what NI did, too.

Hahaha... well in truth... they only mentioned this on their forum and I was lucky to find out. It seems like it's a "soft rollout." They haven't blasted this out there yet. Almost like a public beta. I just shared it because seemed like maybe some of you guys with Apple Silicon would want to check it out since it's native. It works okay with my Intel MacPro, but as I said, it takes away the "repair" option for older instruments, etc.

[waterstrum]

FWIW...

I think James is offering something he thinks might be useful.
A gift.
Feels like a slap in the face when someone is offering knowledge and the replies are snarky.

I've had this happen a few times when I was posting something I thought would be helpful.
It certainly shut me down.

Kindness... Where art thou?

[Michael Canavan]

FWIW...

I think James is offering something he thinks might be useful.
A gift.
Feels like a slap in the face when someone is offering knowledge and the replies are snarky.

I've had this happen a few times when I was posting something I thought would be helpful.
It certainly shut me down.

Kindness... Where art thou?

What are you implying? In no way is it not useful to post, but it cannot be ignored that NI are kinda dropping the ball here. It being a soft rollout makes sense I guess. You don't immediately become the updates from companies you post, and criticism of a mediocre update is not some sort of condemnation of the person who posts it.

They released an Apple Silicon compatible update that doesn't work with all of their software, that's worth talking about, and being unimpressed with that is not related to someone pointing out the release. Why make that connection mentally? So if it crashed on my system but you posted the update am I not supposed to post in the thread about it because you might take that personally?

I seriously don't understand why people read so much into something this simple, NI posted

[HCMarkus]

FWIW...

I think James is offering something he thinks might be useful.
A gift.
Feels like a slap in the face when someone is offering knowledge and the replies are snarky.

I've had this happen a few times when I was posting something I thought would be helpful.
It certainly shut me down.

Kindness... Where art thou?

Hope you didn't find my post offensive, waterstrum. As is often true, my attempts at humor don't always land smoothly. No offense was intended.

I value James', yours, and everyone's contributions here.

[stubbsonic]

FWIW...

I think James is offering something he thinks might be useful.
A gift.
Feels like a slap in the face when someone is offering knowledge and the replies are snarky.

I've had this happen a few times when I was posting something I thought would be helpful.
It certainly shut me down.

Kindness... Where art thou?

My apologies if my ROFL'ing seemed unkind. Because I know HCMarkus as a kind-hearted human, I knew he meant no disrespect. If you re-read, you'll see he was taking a clever, funny and not-too-harsh little wink at NI (and not James). But it's a good reminder.

Thanks, James for the info about the NI Access (public beta) 2. As Michael Canavan said, I'm gonna wait until there's a less troublesome release for M1/AS.

[waterstrum]

Hi guys, sorry if I over-reacted.
One of the things I treasure about Motunation is that it feels like family here.
I guess this just hit a sore spot for me.
Thanks for checking in about it.
Much appreciated.
I get it that no meanness was intended.
Thanks!

[HCMarkus]

One of the things I treasure about Motunation is that it feels like family here.

Me too.

[James Steele]

FWIW...

I think James is offering something he thinks might be useful.
A gift.
Feels like a slap in the face when someone is offering knowledge and the replies are snarky.

I've had this happen a few times when I was posting something I thought would be helpful.
It certainly shut me down.

Kindness... Where art thou?

Hope you didn't find my post offensive, waterstrum. As is often true, my attempts at humor don't always land smoothly. No offense was intended.

I value James', yours, and everyone's contributions here.

I certainly understood you were joking. I do believe my follow up post started "Hahaha!" That seems pretty clear to me.

[James Steele]

Hi guys, sorry if I over-reacted.
One of the things I treasure about Motunation is that it feels like family here.
I guess this just hit a sore spot for me.
Thanks for checking in about it.
Much appreciated.
I get it that no meanness was intended.
Thanks!

It's not a problem at all. I didn't take it that way. I just thought I'd spread the word about it since NI hasn't made a big official launch announcement.