Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
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Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
I still can't understand please help
Am I right?
When I am recording some thing in my DAW , Mixing , working on plugins I need to increase my Motu 4 Buffer size
and after every thing is done when I am listening to my recording or I go to my daily activity watch youtube etc
It is a good idea to increase my buffer size as much as possible?
Am I right?
And the reason is that when recording and editing I want to make sure I get low latency
but when generally I am on youtube or listening to music I want to use less ram and cpu So increasing buffer size is good idea
Right?
Am I right?
When I am recording some thing in my DAW , Mixing , working on plugins I need to increase my Motu 4 Buffer size
and after every thing is done when I am listening to my recording or I go to my daily activity watch youtube etc
It is a good idea to increase my buffer size as much as possible?
Am I right?
And the reason is that when recording and editing I want to make sure I get low latency
but when generally I am on youtube or listening to music I want to use less ram and cpu So increasing buffer size is good idea
Right?
Thanks in advance
- mikehalloran
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
Lower buffer = less latency when tracking. There are a lot of variables, none of which we know in your setup. Too low and you may have to limit the number of playback tracks while overdubbing. Again, this is a general rule and performance depends on your system and setup.
During mixing and playback only, a larger buffer minimizes CPU overhead.
During mixing and playback only, a larger buffer minimizes CPU overhead.
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
OK so I need low latency when I am working on my DAW ? right so I decrease buffer as much as possible
and when I am done and go back to daily music listening I increase buffer size ?
and when I am done and go back to daily music listening I increase buffer size ?
Thanks in advance
- HCMarkus
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
A little more detail on MIke's explanation...
If you are recording a virtual instrument or monitoring thru the computer audio being recorded, a small buffer is vital. Small Buffer = Minimal Latency.
A small buffer forces your computer to process audio input and output more quickly, thus reducing the delay time between audio input and output. Since virtual instruments generate their sound within the computer, a small buffer means the VIs will be more responsive, less laggy, with a small buffer. A small buffer also makes your computer work harder, so the number of virtual instrument/audio tracks the computer can handle is fewer when running a small buffer.
Once you are done recording, you can increase buffer size without concern. This allows you to use more plugins and processing as you mix your project.
If you monitor hardware synths or other external audio inputs thru a hardware mixer, buffer size doesn't matter. A hardware mixer allows you to hear external audio sources without delay because the audio is not passing thru the computer first. Many audio interfaces have a built-in hardware mixer that allows near-zero latency monitoring of external audio sources being recorded.
Hope this helps.
If you are recording a virtual instrument or monitoring thru the computer audio being recorded, a small buffer is vital. Small Buffer = Minimal Latency.
A small buffer forces your computer to process audio input and output more quickly, thus reducing the delay time between audio input and output. Since virtual instruments generate their sound within the computer, a small buffer means the VIs will be more responsive, less laggy, with a small buffer. A small buffer also makes your computer work harder, so the number of virtual instrument/audio tracks the computer can handle is fewer when running a small buffer.
Once you are done recording, you can increase buffer size without concern. This allows you to use more plugins and processing as you mix your project.
If you monitor hardware synths or other external audio inputs thru a hardware mixer, buffer size doesn't matter. A hardware mixer allows you to hear external audio sources without delay because the audio is not passing thru the computer first. Many audio interfaces have a built-in hardware mixer that allows near-zero latency monitoring of external audio sources being recorded.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
thanks , That was exactly what I said right?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
With all respect, no, it's not.
It depends on what you are doing with your DAW and how you are doing it. And you have to increase the buffer size for daily music listening only if you are encountering drops outs or artifacts.harmonicaman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:28 am OK so I need low latency when I am working on my DAW ? right so I decrease buffer as much as possible
and when I am done and go back to daily music listening I increase buffer size ?
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Re: Less buffer size when working with DAW more when listening?
LOL OK , So my question is what kind of activities in DAW requires low latency and if my setting is like thisHCMarkus wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:15 amWith all respect, no, it's not.
It depends on what you are doing with your DAW and how you are doing it. And you have to increase the buffer size for daily music listening only if you are encountering drops outs or artifacts.harmonicaman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:28 am OK so I need low latency when I am working on my DAW ? right so I decrease buffer as much as possible
and when I am done and go back to daily music listening I increase buffer size ?
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I suppose let's say in my DAW I add a delay plugin and I want to hear what immediate results low latency will let me hear the result faster?
Thanks in advance