I'm not following all of this, but yes, I could finishing mixing and editing the audio in DP first, and bounce it. And at that point, if I'm just dealing with stereo audio, it all becomes easier. I could align and do crossfades within DP or within the video editing software too.MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Just break up the multi track into manageable bits and edit the damn thing, already! Bounce the sections you want to add or just copy and paste them into the proper place. You should be able to patch up the waveforms easily. Again, import the video audio so you can see it. Open it in the sequence window, paste or import the segment in question, and do you crossfades, edits, etc.
I'm just not understanding why you can't do that. Is the time line on the multi track different (longer?) that the video? Why doesn't it just sit in one with it now? there's a piece of your puzzle that is missing.
Fess up! lol
But I'm talking about the step before I'm ready to bounce the multi-track audio. I want to make my multi-track mixing, comping, and editing decisions while watching the video.
And I think this is actually something that happens in the real world of audio mixing for film. (I've been doing more Googling last night.) You get an edited video and then you mix the dialog, sound effects, music, etc. in a DAW. But in the professional world, there is probably a way to use time code to make sure everything aligns. I'm shooting video without time code. So aligning that video in DP is the tough part.
Basically, I'm just combining sound and video for my own amusement and for YouTube videos. But the scenario I mentioned about a live concert film comes from this account of Bob Clearmountain mixing Shine a Light: https://www.soundonsound.com/people/sec ... armountain He had to remix based on what was happening on screen.
Anyway, to answer a few of your questions: Yes, sometimes, the audio is longer than the video or vice versa (mainly because I hit record on the camera before or after I hit record on the computer). And yes, I do import the audio from the video to do the alignment. But since I don't want to move the multi-track audio, that visual alignment isn't all that helpful. I have to set a new movie start time, import the audio, see how I did, re-set the movie start time, re-import the audio, check again how I did, etc.
I think the movie capabilities in DP are probably geared for the pro audio-for-film people (who are dealing with time code) and less so for those of us with cameras that happen to shoot video, iPhones, and the like.
Believe it or not, I used to work for Digidesign/Avid many years ago. And there was always the promise that the world would someday have a complete audio and video editing solution. (I figured Avid would be the one to do that.) To my knowledge, it still hasn't happened with any company, which is kind of amazing to me.