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New features for DP's next update?

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Isn't it tradition that MOTU almost always adds new features in their first updates right after a big upgrade such as DP9 to DP10?

IIRC, it usually takes them 2-3 months, they work out most new bugs related to the new version, and they add new stuff as they work on and release the updates.

Do you think we have reasons to expect the same this time?
If so, what would you like to see in the next update?

Wanna speculate about the DP10.01 ETA? I say June the 5th...

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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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You really want to rehash what's not in DP that we'd love? OK, but this could be a pretty long thread... :rofl:

Chunk Folders

Random savable selections (similar to clippings) but color coded and namable, selecting any set of data in a chunk.

Renaming chunks to sequences.

Eliminating the default key binding for cmd-f and have it go to FIND instead of VIEW FILTER, thus preventing many heart attacks, strokes, and cases of explosive diarrhea.

Bring back the Unicorn, maybe a logo of it pooping on a pile of all the other DAWs.

Paper manuals. Personally, I prefer PDF manuals, but I do miss hunting for trolls who are using bootlegged copies. :unicorn:

And finally, please install a Hit Maker button that applies just the right levels on all appropriate plugs and corrects all errant notes in one simple press of a button.

I mean, really, is this too much to ask?

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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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I do recall MOTU slipping in features on immediate updates after big releases, but they were more on the "handy" side, not major features. But I'm not counting on it. There's quite a few deal-breaking bugs they need to squash.

Someone posted the other day that tech support said the update would be available "very soon", which doesn't tell you much. It was two months between DP9 and 9.01. Hopefully it will be along any time now. I'm mainly working in 9 still because of some of the known bugs in 10.
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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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Usually the first maintenance update doesn't include major new features. That's for a .2 update that has languished with the programmers and beta-tester (testers?... lol).
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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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I'll be thrilled if 10.1 just doesn't crash once (or more) a day.

EDIT: After much discussion with MOTU, I decided that my random crash/freeze behavior was an anomaly to my system and that nothing was going to fix it but a clean reinstall of everything. Which I did, and the problems with DP10 melted away.

So if you're reading this, it was NOT DP10's fault that it crashed and froze continually. There was something wrong with my OS install that DP kept bumping its head on. It's running like a watch now.
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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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Judging by the amount and variety of genuine bug posts I've been seeing here, I'd say MOTU must have quite a LOOoooNG to-do list of things to fix.

IIRC, some quite major feature additions have been made during these "small" updates, like in DP6. I'm looking forward to them, 'cause as long as they don't fix the bugs and add the features I care about - I guess you guys know by now exactly what I mean after sounding like a broken record repeating myself for years... - there's no point for me to upgrade to DP10.
The regular features I do use seem to be buggy and flakey in DP10, so I'd rather wait for some more unicorn love.

I have no choice but to remain hopeful I'll see what I want soon.
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My biggest hope is bounce options. I desperately want a "bounce all tracks as separate audio files" option.
It's the one thing missing in DP that all the other DAWs I use do.

What will come in an update? first off Clips will get options to track audio and MIDI to the timeline, and direct recording etc. That's what I was told when I called tech support last.

I'm almost willing to bet we get the ability to use the 'thermometers' for velocity in MIDI notes to raise and lower velocity cc, but I thought that the spectrogram view for audio would eventually be editable for audio repair like it is in Samplitude and a few other DAWs etc. and I have been wrong so far.
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I was about to start listing things in the Articulation support thread, but this is the one for that.
What I hope will come in an update!

Articulation Support - DP is still the best DAW for orchestral work in terms of the Tracks window, and how that easily handles 100+ tracks, this is a must IMO.

Bounce options- for more than just the master track. (bounce all tracks as separate audio files, bounce only selected stems etc.)

Control surface support- for more than just HUI/Mackie, most modern transports on controller keyboards use MMC and DP can't use them.

MPE support- an adding of an All setting for the 16 MIDI tracks to go along with Any, which still only allows only one channel to record to that track.

Clip improvements- I think this one is a given, we will get a way to record clips to the timeline, according to tech support when I called asking about it. Hopefully we get more complex quantization choices on launch, as it stands it's not comparable to what Bitwig and Live can do.

I know every end user on every forum ever has made this claim, but if these all happened I would basically be a walking advertisement for DP, shouting at everyone I passed on the streets about how fantastic it is! :lol:
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Bounce options- for more than just the master track. (bounce all tracks as separate audio files, bounce only selected stems etc.)

Control surface support- for more than just HUI/Mackie, most modern transports on controller keyboards use MMC and DP can't use them.
to which I'll add MusicXML import, please?????

I know I can import to Logic and export the MIDI but I wouldn't mind skipping that step — really, I wouldn't.
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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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mikehalloran wrote:
Bounce options- for more than just the master track. (bounce all tracks as separate audio files, bounce only selected stems etc.)

Control surface support- for more than just HUI/Mackie, most modern transports on controller keyboards use MMC and DP can't use them.
to which I'll add MusicXML import, please?????

I know I can import to Logic and export the MIDI but I wouldn't mind skipping that step — really, I wouldn't.
I really wish I could bend the ear of the owner of MOTU, because I think these relatively speaking minor improvements, that I would guess take serious time, would skyrocket DP sales. It is as of now the only serious old school DAW that has Clips, and it's dedication to the traditional composer and film score people, as well as it's mixing and mastering capabilities etc. All of these things are so close to being world class if they aren't, that extra nudge would do it. :brucelee:
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Gravity Jim wrote:EDIT: After much discussion with MOTU, I decided that my random crash/freeze behavior was an anomaly to my system and that nothing was going to fix it but a clean reinstall of everything. Which I did, and the problems with DP10 melted away.

So if you're reading this, it was NOT DP10's fault that it crashed and froze continually. There was something wrong with my OS install that DP kept bumping its head on. It's running like a watch now.
Jim, this is the best news I've heard this month and possibly this year!

How awesome is that, brother? :headbang:

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MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Paper manuals. Personally, I prefer PDF manuals, but I do miss hunting for trolls who are using bootlegged copies. :unicorn:

And finally, please install a Hit Maker button that applies just the right levels on all appropriate plugs and corrects all errant notes in one simple press of a button.

I mean, really, is this too much to ask?

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I'd like to see them release a stable version of DP. That would be enough.
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Re: New features for DP's next update?

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Gravity Jim wrote:I'd like to see them release a stable version of DP. That would be enough.
DP is what the Eagles were talking about when they wrote Hotel California, "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!" :lol:

On a serious note, I'm currently heavily exploring MPE synths, so the aftertouch bug affects me to where I'm working in Logic and the one that reaps at the moment. I'm impatient for at least another bug fix update as well.
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Michael Canavan wrote: DP is what the Eagles were talking about when they wrote Hotel California, "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!" :lol:
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