Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet?
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Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet?
Hi. I want to bounce individual tracks all at once. Is this possible? It doesn't seem to be. To be clear, if I select 32 tracks, I want 32 separate files with plugins and automation with one bounce.
Maybe freeze? Not sure.
Thanks!
Maybe freeze? Not sure.
Thanks!
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
Yeah, freeze is exactly what you want. The only "problem" (which isn't really one) is that it's done in real time, so it'll take as long as your music lasts.Dan Worley wrote:Hi. I want to bounce individual tracks all at once. Is this possible? It doesn't seem to be. To be clear, if I select 32 tracks, I want 32 separate files with plugins and automation with one bounce.
Maybe freeze? Not sure.
Just remember that Freeze does NOT capture anything sent to FXs or aux tracks down the chain. It only captures whatever there is at the track level. Bouncing, OTOH, would capture anything that is routed tho the master output and play-enabled. So you must decide on the proper workflow depending on what you want to capture in your individual tracks.
BTW, BTD does have a few caveats as well when you bounce individual tracks or even stems.
Oh, and if you use Freeze, make sure you have enough free available bundles/buses (at least as many as your desired frozen tracks), so DP auto-assigns them automatically correctly.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
by using a surround output you can bounce up to 12 (10.2) tracks simultaneously. If your audio interface has fewer than 12 outputs, you can setup an Aggregate device to combine interfaces and built-in output.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
Another workaround (which I think FM also uses) involves some planning ahead. If you know which tracks you are going to want to bounce, or which groups of tracks you will want to bounce to stems, set it up in your template or project routing beforehand. For every tracks or bus you are going to bounce, don't route directly to the main output, instead, route them to another audio track with Monitoring enabled. Route these audio tracks to the main output, group them and hide them. When ready for the "bounce", unhide them, turn off monitoring, record enable them, and press record.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
What Bays said.
And I agree... since Freezing happens at the same speed of real-time recording, it's much easier and faster to setup to record your pre-routed tracks instead of freezing them.
Then, if you feel you must dither your recorded stems (i.e., to get rid of the quantisation distortion from 32bFP to 24bf or 16bf in the subgroups), it's a piece of cake to setup with your favourite dither with this added control, especially if everything is already pre-routed as part of your template (or you can choose to print to 32bFP to avoid all this).
Last time I checked, the Dither command in he Audio menu does NOT add the dither to the 24 bits file when merging and I think when freezing, but I'd need to double check again about the Freeze command to be sure (it only dithers correctly for 16 bits and a few other arbitrary bit depths, IIRC, but NOT 24 bits).
When freezing you don't really have that kind of control, so that's another thing you may want to consider when deciding which workflow is best suited for you.
And I agree... since Freezing happens at the same speed of real-time recording, it's much easier and faster to setup to record your pre-routed tracks instead of freezing them.
Then, if you feel you must dither your recorded stems (i.e., to get rid of the quantisation distortion from 32bFP to 24bf or 16bf in the subgroups), it's a piece of cake to setup with your favourite dither with this added control, especially if everything is already pre-routed as part of your template (or you can choose to print to 32bFP to avoid all this).
Last time I checked, the Dither command in he Audio menu does NOT add the dither to the 24 bits file when merging and I think when freezing, but I'd need to double check again about the Freeze command to be sure (it only dithers correctly for 16 bits and a few other arbitrary bit depths, IIRC, but NOT 24 bits).
When freezing you don't really have that kind of control, so that's another thing you may want to consider when deciding which workflow is best suited for you.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
This seems like it would prevent PreGen.bayswater wrote:Another workaround (which I think FM also uses) involves some planning ahead. If you know which tracks you are going to want to bounce, or which groups of tracks you will want to bounce to stems, set it up in your template or project routing beforehand. For every tracks or bus you are going to bounce, don't route directly to the main output, instead, route them to another audio track with Monitoring enabled. Route these audio tracks to the main output, group them and hide them. When ready for the "bounce", unhide them, turn off monitoring, record enable them, and press record.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
That would be 12 mono files right? Interesting workaround.reedster wrote:by using a surround output you can bounce up to 12 (10.2) tracks simultaneously. If your audio interface has fewer than 12 outputs, you can setup an Aggregate device to combine interfaces and built-in output.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
Yes, or one could interleave the files by renaming them - but - in testing today renaming is tedious and there are panning issues.Michael Canavan wrote:That would be 12 mono files right? Interesting workaround.reedster wrote:by using a surround output you can bounce up to 12 (10.2) tracks simultaneously. If your audio interface has fewer than 12 outputs, you can setup an Aggregate device to combine interfaces and built-in output.
Alternatively - an easier solution is the File / Bounce Settings / Multi Bounce menu item. One can use Bounce to Disk with Save Settings for Bounce Again option and create presets. Make each preset have a different source. Then in Multi Bounce, choose the presets you want to queue. For mono files only use an odd numbered bus as the source.
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Re: Is bouncing individual tracks "all at once" possible yet
Thanks, everyone, for your advice and workarounds. Much appreciated. I will try them all and see which one(s) fit my needs. I already do a version of some of these. I was hoping MOTU would add "Track Bounce" like PT has. Very handy. I think Logic has similar with File > Export > All Tracks as Audio Files. Anyway, onward...
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