Having trouble with pitch correction/edits

[funkyfreddy]

I'm experiencing some real problems with pitch correction and editing in DP9. Whenever I'm editing pitch I get about a quarter of the way through the vocal and then all of the sudden my track goes haywire.... the pitch just goes to hell, not sure how to describe it.

I get the pitch corrected on a handful of phrases with the pencil tool and then all of a sudden the rest of the track goes to atonal hell, not sure of what I'm doing wrong.... I'm trying to make sure I have certain notes or small regions selected before performing edits.....

I haven't used pitch correction before but the vocals on this project really need it unfortunately.... not sure what I'm doing wrong the process seems very unintuitive so far to me.......

[supersonic]

Before having Melodyne Studio I used it for years with good result. I never stumbled across the problem you are having. Did you write to support?

[funkyfreddy]

I didn't write to DP support yet, wasn't sure whether it was user error on my part or not. I must say though that the pitch correction features built in to Reason 10 are great and very easy to use.... so for the time being I'll record the vocals for this project in Reason or fly them in from DP.

I'll give DP's pitch correction another try eventually but for now will work on my vocal pitch issues within Reason.

[Dave Connor]

Haven’t used this feature as I normally track vocals and edit them at a studio. The behavior described above is axactly what’s happening: you get things just right and then find everything out of whack in previous and following areas of the file. Same thing happens in DP 8 and 9.5.

[stubbsonic]

Does an UNDO fix it?

On a related note, I've had trouble with DP's pitch window where I've gone to select pitch regions and paste them into a MIDI track, and all the durations are made very short-- even though the notes and pitch regions are all long. Weird, clunky. (Or user error).

[Dave Connor]

I did an entire vocal track - worked very hard at getting it just right. I noticed that just selecting a small area will often select way beyond it and cause that area to go haywire - so I avoided that (always undid selection and carefully selected only desired area.) I listened to entire file - signed off on everything and closed DP. Opened next morning and everything that had been pitch corrected was very strangely off.

Never done anything as bold as you did in copying into MIDI but maybe someone can chime on that.

[MW1]

I'm experiencing some real problems with pitch correction and editing in DP9. Whenever I'm editing pitch I get about a quarter of the way through the vocal and then all of the sudden my track goes haywire.... the pitch just goes to hell, not sure how to describe it.

I get the pitch corrected on a handful of phrases with the pencil tool and then all of a sudden the rest of the track goes to atonal hell, not sure of what I'm doing wrong.... I'm trying to make sure I have certain notes or small regions selected before performing edits.....

I haven't used pitch correction before but the vocals on this project really need it unfortunately.... not sure what I'm doing wrong the process seems very unintuitive so far to me.......

This is a well documented bug in DP 9.5 (as per your sig) but MOTU issued a fix in v9.51.

I would update DP to the latest version and you should be OK.

MW

[HCMarkus]

What MW said.

That said, I ran into the described issue on an older file opened in DP9.52, which seemed to be tied to a track. Moving the source audio file to a new track has resolved what Undo would not.

[Dave Connor]

What MW said.

That said, I ran into the described issue on an older file opened in DP9.52, which seemed to be tied to a track. Moving the source audio file to a new track has resolved what Undo would not.

I use DP 8 but figured 9.5 would be farther along with that function. My mistake. Before I read about the bug above I started from scratch in DP 8 and had no problems.

What’s interesting is that two vital functions I needed: Pitch and remote DAW control were both essentially a no-go in DP during a professional crunch time. Nice.

[HCMarkus]

9.52 has been very solid for me. I have only experienced the pitch glitch once since 9.52 was installed. And the new pitch/time stretch algorithms are most excellent; polyphonic material can now be manipulated much more transparently. A long-time wish list item was thus fulfilled for me.

[waxman]

I pitched fixed a vocal last week in 9.52... about halfway through song suddenly the rest of the vocal was up a 1/2 step. I usually track vocals using multiple takes then edit a master take. What I'm finding is it helps to edit the various takes together then copy to a new track. The pitch bug has never appeared after doing that. This time it was a quick one take vocal on a guys song still in the initial writing process. There is a bug and it is still in 9.52... the best fix would be great singers who do perfect takes with great feel and in tune. Anyone know where I can get one of those. Plug or hardware is fine...

[jlaudon]

This happens to me often as well in DP 9.52, where I want to pitch correct one word then suddenly the whole phrase or soundbite is highlighted and pitch changed into seemingly random notes... it's definitely a bug, which also happened in 9.51 to me as well.

[waxman]

try cutting them merging the file again...

[Sean Kenny]

I'm experiencing the same problem from time to time in 9.52. It's a double edge sword, as the pitch shifting quality on program material is awesome and this (hopefully temporary) bug is the downside. My workaround is to firstly create a duplicate take of the vocal for tuning, then re-merge the file so that it is actually a completely separate piece of audio from take one (otherwise the pitch automation will be duplicated to the first take) then I segment the lines. I have found that it tends not to go haywire if the vocal is segmented into lines, that said it may just be coincidence. In the event that it does I just flip to take one and copy the damaged bit of vocal to the tuning take (take 2). It's a bit of a Pfaff, but hopefully Moto will sort it out in the next incarnation of DP.

In spite of the problems I still say DP kicks arse when it comes to editing and especially pitch correction and is certainly a hell of a lot quicker than Melodyne.

One other bug bear with 9.52 is that time stretching audio result in a bout 1.5db drop in volume of the stretched file. FWIW, I tend to do editing and stretching in 9.02 and then tune and mix in 9.52 at the moment.

[HCMarkus]

Sent to MOTU

Added by Andrew on 2018/09/10

Hi Mark,
This issue is on our fix list. Thanks for sharing the link.