Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
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Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Looks like Cakewalk was acquired by a Singapore-based company that may keep the DAW alive.
https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/busines ... son-brands
https://www.prosoundnetwork.com/busines ... son-brands
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Good to hear I guess, hopefully MOTU snagged up the local Mass. area developers!
Wondered why Microsoft didn't step up? They've always done things in such a bass akwards way though, they recently worked with Bitwig on touch screen support, put in serious time, but Cakewalk who helped them come up with the Windows only DXi if I recall, got no love...
Wondered why Microsoft didn't step up? They've always done things in such a bass akwards way though, they recently worked with Bitwig on touch screen support, put in serious time, but Cakewalk who helped them come up with the Windows only DXi if I recall, got no love...
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
There still hasn't been much clarification since that story broke a week ago.
It looks unlikely though, that anything but SONAR (the one Cakewalk product I don't own) will make the cut.
Also, the new owner has been focused on phone apps, so it's unclear whether they will use SONAR assets to dramatically enhance and improve what they have, or break into the desktop market.
It looks unlikely though, that anything but SONAR (the one Cakewalk product I don't own) will make the cut.
Also, the new owner has been focused on phone apps, so it's unclear whether they will use SONAR assets to dramatically enhance and improve what they have, or break into the desktop market.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Who are these guys and what are they up to?
Would anyone who is serious about this stuff depend on a free DAW?
I hope this isn't writing on the wall about the DAW business in general.
Would anyone who is serious about this stuff depend on a free DAW?
I hope this isn't writing on the wall about the DAW business in general.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
I hope not either. I read that they unbundled some of the stuff that came with the paid version. I'll never forget that before Gibson killed Studio Vision Pro they put it on fire sale for $39 or something.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Looks like James had the right idea. BandLab is making the Windows version free. Keyboard has an article up.
https://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/sonar- ... b-and-free
https://www.keyboardmag.com/gear/sonar- ... b-and-free
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Perhaps BandLab is using SONAR (now "Cakewalk by BandLab") to attract users to their collaborative services.
On one hand, having capable DAW software that allows users to create and share in a common platform makes sense-- especially for younger artists who aren't mentally hardwired to a particular DAW.
On the other hand, time will tell if this project gains confidence of a large group of users. In any case, I hope the BandLab sign-up isn't too invasive. It would feel weird (to me) to entrust that service with creative work.
As an aside, is it just me that gets the major creeps from Dropbox? I use it, but I don't really trust it.
On one hand, having capable DAW software that allows users to create and share in a common platform makes sense-- especially for younger artists who aren't mentally hardwired to a particular DAW.
On the other hand, time will tell if this project gains confidence of a large group of users. In any case, I hope the BandLab sign-up isn't too invasive. It would feel weird (to me) to entrust that service with creative work.
As an aside, is it just me that gets the major creeps from Dropbox? I use it, but I don't really trust it.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
I use it too, but don't trust it any more than any other cloud services. Why should I? At least it's a paid service that isn't targeting me with ads from the highest bidder.stubbsonic wrote: As an aside, is it just me that gets the major creeps from Dropbox? I use it, but I don't really trust it.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
Things just keep getting more vague. The new MacPro won't be out this year (as per CNET). And Apple is likely to move to new chips. Again. Not sure about going through that again. But is Windows and alternative? Not if free DAWs are sucking all the investment out of their development.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
For the last time, Gibson DID NOT "kill" Studio Vision.
Opcode was a train wreck teetering over the edge of the Trestle To Hell when Gibson (only recently saved from extinction itself but Henry J. and his merry band of bankers) bought it and infused it with a huge shot of cash they thought would give the company time to recover.
They were wrong. Despite their best efforts, Gibson couldn't save Opcode.
Saying Gibson killed Opcode is like saying that a skilled surgeon killed the now-dead patient admitted through the ER with multiple cranial and thoracic injuries and a 80% blood loss.
Opcode was a train wreck teetering over the edge of the Trestle To Hell when Gibson (only recently saved from extinction itself but Henry J. and his merry band of bankers) bought it and infused it with a huge shot of cash they thought would give the company time to recover.
They were wrong. Despite their best efforts, Gibson couldn't save Opcode.
Saying Gibson killed Opcode is like saying that a skilled surgeon killed the now-dead patient admitted through the ER with multiple cranial and thoracic injuries and a 80% blood loss.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
To quote the comedian, Steven Martin: "Well, excuuuuuuse me!"Gravity Jim wrote:For the last time, Gibson DID NOT "kill" Studio Vision.
Opcode was a train wreck teetering over the edge of the Trestle To Hell when Gibson (only recently saved from extinction itself but Henry J. and his merry band of bankers) bought it and infused it with a huge shot of cash they thought would give the company time to recover.
They were wrong. Despite their best efforts, Gibson couldn't save Opcode.
Saying Gibson killed Opcode is like saying that a skilled surgeon killed the now-dead patient admitted through the ER with multiple cranial and thoracic injuries and a 80% blood loss.
I was there... I admittedly don't know the backstory. All I know is that Gibson bought Opcode and shortly thereafter Studio Vision Pro was no more. Or do I have that wrong? I knew nothing about the inside baseball "what was going to happen"... I just remember what happened.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
These are 3rd-hand reports on "Cakewalk from BandLab", so perhaps someone can verify...
First thing I read was that it won't install on Linux. (Was there a Linux version of the original?)
The second thing was that there were scattered reports of this version messing up previously working installations of the original software.
And the third thing was that someone said this new license is only good through Oct 2018.
Again, I'm repeating something I read on another forum. Apply appropriate skepticism.
First thing I read was that it won't install on Linux. (Was there a Linux version of the original?)
The second thing was that there were scattered reports of this version messing up previously working installations of the original software.
And the third thing was that someone said this new license is only good through Oct 2018.
Again, I'm repeating something I read on another forum. Apply appropriate skepticism.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
I've read a few threads on this, and AFAIK, it was always Windows only, and has worked fine for several people who already had it installed. Don't know about the temporary licence.stubbsonic wrote:These are 3rd-hand reports on "Cakewalk from BandLab", so perhaps someone can verify...
First thing I read was that it won't install on Linux. (Was there a Linux version of the original?)
The second thing was that there were scattered reports of this version messing up previously working installations of the original software.
And the third thing was that someone said this new license is only good through Oct 2018.
Again, I'm repeating something I read on another forum. Apply appropriate skepticism.
It's going to rain for three days non stop here, so I might dig out the old test PC from under the stairs and see if I can get it to run.
What I found odd is the relative lack of interest in the places you would usually find a lot of discussion on such things.
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Re: Cakewalk/SONAR lives?
That’s how I saw it too. But it didn’t matter really. I moved to DP, I think rev 2.7, to which Motu made some changes that attracted me and which made the switch a no brainer and here I be.James Steele wrote:To quote the comedian, Steven Martin: "Well, excuuuuuuse me!"Gravity Jim wrote:For the last time, Gibson DID NOT "kill" Studio Vision.
Opcode was a train wreck teetering over the edge of the Trestle To Hell when Gibson (only recently saved from extinction itself but Henry J. and his merry band of bankers) bought it and infused it with a huge shot of cash they thought would give the company time to recover.
They were wrong. Despite their best efforts, Gibson couldn't save Opcode.
Saying Gibson killed Opcode is like saying that a skilled surgeon killed the now-dead patient admitted through the ER with multiple cranial and thoracic injuries and a 80% blood loss.
I was there... I admittedly don't know the backstory. All I know is that Gibson bought Opcode and shortly thereafter Studio Vision Pro was no more. Or do I have that wrong? I knew nothing about the inside baseball "what was going to happen"... I just remember what happened.
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