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Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:00 am
by marquito
Hi all

I finally upgraded to DP 9.13 today but was shocked how poor the visibility was for velocity data in the MIDI Edit window - specifically Note On Velocity.

This was never one of DP's strong points but now the velocity stems in the Nine Theme are practically invisible even when selected. I'm amazed MOTU haven't picked up on this - it's such an essential editing function.

I have gone and hacked into the resource files (as per another thread on the forum) so they display as tiny yellow dots - very slightly better but the stems are still almost invisible - and everything is microscopically small.

Does anyone know which specific graphic I could edit to make the stems a lighter color?

Actually there are real visibility issues in a number of areas in the Nine theme but the velocity display is just ridiculously poor. I tried some of the other themes but actually there's not much improvement in any of them.

What's the best way of putting pressure on MOTU to improve the situation - I can't believe it would be hard for them to improve this.

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:25 am
by mikehalloran
Primary DAW OS: Unspecified
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Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:27 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
MOTU must face!

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:31 am
by marquito
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Sorry - i'm on Mac OS Sierra 10.12.3

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:14 pm
by James Steele
Oh, oh... the "U" word! :)

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:37 pm
by FMiguelez
Ask one of the DP theme gurus of the board...

If all you want is to make the velocities' handles bigger, I would expect it to be easy doing it if you know how to mess with themes and their components. Maybe they know to do it.

I would be interested, since I'd love to also make the CC lane's background (the pane background) in the GE, SE and TO a little lighter, so there's more contrast and the velocities are easier to see in the 9.0 and Plasma themes.

I wouldn't call it unusable, though...

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:46 pm
by FMiguelez
Actually, I would also like a way to darken the measure and beat subdivisions in the grids, since they are so faint in themes like Plasma.

Is that doable changing the default themes?

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:25 am
by Vewilya
marquito wrote:Hi all

I finally upgraded to DP 9.13 today but was shocked how poor the visibility was for velocity data in the MIDI Edit window - specifically Note On Velocity.

This was never one of DP's strong points but now the velocity stems in the Nine Theme are practically invisible even when selected. I'm amazed MOTU haven't picked up on this - it's such an essential editing function.

I have gone and hacked into the resource files (as per another thread on the forum) so they display as tiny yellow dots - very slightly better but the stems are still almost invisible - and everything is microscopically small.

Does anyone know which specific graphic I could edit to make the stems a lighter color?

Actually there are real visibility issues in a number of areas in the Nine theme but the velocity display is just ridiculously poor. I tried some of the other themes but actually there's not much improvement in any of them.

What's the best way of putting pressure on MOTU to improve the situation - I can't believe it would be hard for them to improve this.
I found this helpful:
http://admiralbumblebee.com/music/2016/ ... rrows.html

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:35 am
by marquito
Thanks, that's very helpful.

I'm used to the velocity stalks and points being tiny having worked with them for over 20 years but in the default Nine theme it's even worse - they are all but invisible because there is no color contrast... hence my frustration!

I just wish MOTU would sort this out - it seems absurd to have to hack into the application's graphics files for such a basic function.

Re: Velocity MIDI data display in 9.13 - Unusable!!!

Posted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:37 pm
by FMiguelez
marquito wrote:Thanks, that's very helpful.

I'm used to the velocity stalks and points being tiny having worked with them for over 20 years but in the default Nine theme it's even worse - they are all but invisible because there is no color contrast... hence my frustration!

I just wish MOTU would sort this out - it seems absurd to have to hack into the application's graphics files for such a basic function.
MOTU reps not always read these boards, so make sure you let MOTU know about this, otherwise they won't improve it. Call them or start a support ticket regarding your issue.