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Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:48 pm
by waxman
Mac OS Sierra releases tomorrow. The warnings are already coming in. Seems it's not playing well with AU plugins. Who's brave?

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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:21 pm
by mikehalloran
Other than Plugin Alliance? They always seem to have problems with new OS releases.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:32 pm
by cuttime
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:54 pm
by James Steele
Seems like it's prudent to hang back sometimes. I think I'd rather not take the risk that only Plug In Alliance plugs might be affected.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:07 pm
by cuttime
AFAIK, MOTU has not made any Sierra compatibility statements. If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:49 am
by Phil O
As far as I can tell, it looks like the big deal with Sierra is its integration with iOS, which isn't important to me at all. Is there anything else that I should be excited about?

Phil

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:52 am
by David Polich
Always wait six months before updating to a new Mac OS...that's my motto. And skip every other
one. If Apple's tradition continues, Sierra will be a fixed version of El Capitan. Just as Snow Leopard was Leopard fixed, and Mountain Lion was Lion fixed.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:06 am
by waxman

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:19 am
by Killahurts
Not brave enough to jump off a cliff.

My system (most current El Cap and DP) is working so well, maybe better than it ever has. I may be here a long time.. It feels a little like the Snow Leopard days again..

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:46 am
by waxman
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All of our current-generation hardware devices are fully compatible with macOS Sierra and will therefore deliver highly stable audio performance while working under this operating system.
https://support.native-instruments.com/ ... OS-Sierra-

Non-Compatible Devices

As of macOS Sierra, Native Instruments is officially ceasing support for the following discontinued (older-generation) devices:

TRAKTOR

TRAKTOR KONTROL S4 MK1 (first generation)
TRAKTOR AUDIO 2 MK1 (first generation)
AUDIO 2 DJ
AUDIO 4 DJ
AUDIO 8 DJ
KOMPLETE

AUDIO KONTROL 1
GUITAR RIG MOBILE I/O
GUITAR RIG SESSION I/O
RIG KONTROL 2
RIG KONTROL 3
KORE Controller
KORE 2 Controller

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:57 am
by mikehalloran
MOTU always waits till the release to comment and usually follows up with any new drivers in a few days if needed. The recent USB issue affected nearly everyone and took a lot longer to resolve.

I have no reason not to be an early adopter but I always wait a few days. I'll uninstall DP 7.24 and Finale 2011 & 2014.5 first to see if they reinstall. As they work fine in 10.11.6, I don't see any problem but you never know.

I hope that Encore 5.0.7, MasterWriter 2, Photoshop Elements 6 and Office 2008 still work in Sierra. I'll also have to check and see which older iMacs are no longer supported for the school computers I maintain — no big deal if I can't update those, however.

10.12 doesn't appear to be a watershed release like Yosemite and 10.8. We'll see...

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:04 am
by mikehalloran
It feels a little like the Snow Leopard days again...
I do not feel any nostalgia for 10.6. Too many things were broken in 10.5 that were not fixed till 10.8.2. Leopard, Lion and Mavericks were dogs, however.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:04 am
by Robert Randolph
Backed up fully with time machine. I have a couple days of free time.

Sierra downloading now.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:16 am
by dix
UA's statement is out that is. It says NOT to update to Sierra if using UA plugins.

Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:34 am
by cuttime
This is the most concise and apparently correct compatibility chart I've seen (I still see press releases saying that this release of sierra uses APFS):
http://www.macworld.com/article/3121239 ... ierra.html

Ars Technica:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/09/ma ... ca-review/