Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
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mikehalloran
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I loaded Sierra on my external SSD. I've only a few minutes before going to a rehearsal but, so far, Office 2008 is fast again like it was in Mavericks. I like that. More later.
DP 11.31; 828mkII FW, micro lite, M4, MTP/AV USB Firmware 2.0.1
2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sonoma 14.4.1, USB4 8TB external, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3 6/10/12; 2012 MBPs Catalina, Mojave
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2023 Mac Studio M2 8TB, 192GB RAM, OS Sonoma 14.4.1, USB4 8TB external, M-Audio AIR 192|14, Mackie ProFxv3 6/10/12; 2012 MBPs Catalina, Mojave
IK-NI-Izotope-PSP-Garritan-Antares, LogicPro X, Finale 27.4, Dorico 5.2, Notion 6, Overture 5, TwistedWave, DSP-Q 5, SmartScore64 Pro, Toast 20 Pro
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HCMarkus
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
If you really want to install Sierra on an old Mac Pro, hunt around MacRumors in the Mac Pro Forum and you will find your answers. EDIT: OK, I couldn't resist...
1,1 and 2,1 here: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/200 ... a.1977271/
Here's for a 3,1: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac ... a.1978005/
James, the 4,1>5,1 hack has been reported as allowing installation of Sierra without issue.
As I understand it, if handled properly, ANY Mac Pro can run under Sierra. As Mike suggested, absent certain updated components, notably WiFi and Bluetooth, you may not have access to all of the new features.
PS: Sorry for the false alarm Waxie. I just read what NI released, and the absence of any mention of software had me concerned...
1,1 and 2,1 here: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/200 ... a.1977271/
Here's for a 3,1: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac ... a.1978005/
James, the 4,1>5,1 hack has been reported as allowing installation of Sierra without issue.
As I understand it, if handled properly, ANY Mac Pro can run under Sierra. As Mike suggested, absent certain updated components, notably WiFi and Bluetooth, you may not have access to all of the new features.
PS: Sorry for the false alarm Waxie. I just read what NI released, and the absence of any mention of software had me concerned...
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crescentoon55
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
Installed it on an extra disk.... now the disk won't boot..... a real mess....
Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I was just having fun... no worries...HCMarkus wrote:
PS: Sorry for the false alarm Waxie. I just read what NI released, and the absence of any mention of software had me concerned...
waxman
DP9.5, Macbook Pro (2018) Mojave, Slate VMS mic, Everything Bundle, Dual Raven MTI 2, Apollo Twin Quad, UAD Arrow, UAD Satellite Octo Tbolt and all the UAD plugs, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate & Arturia V Collection 6, Maschine Studio MK3 Hardware, NI Komplete Kontrol 61s MK 2, Spectrasonics Ominisphere, Superior Drummer, BFD3, Ozone 7, Altiverb, Sound Toys, Waves, Final Cut X. PT 11.
DP9.5, Macbook Pro (2018) Mojave, Slate VMS mic, Everything Bundle, Dual Raven MTI 2, Apollo Twin Quad, UAD Arrow, UAD Satellite Octo Tbolt and all the UAD plugs, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate & Arturia V Collection 6, Maschine Studio MK3 Hardware, NI Komplete Kontrol 61s MK 2, Spectrasonics Ominisphere, Superior Drummer, BFD3, Ozone 7, Altiverb, Sound Toys, Waves, Final Cut X. PT 11.
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Saintmatthew
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I'm still on Mavericks.
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HCMarkus
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I'm still on Mountain Lion! (at least for the studio Mac).Saintmatthew wrote:I'm still on Mavericks.
Interestingly, despite the fact Apple warned iCloud drive would no longer be accessible under ML after I upgraded my phones and laptop, Calendar and Contacts info still move seamlessly to and from the studio Mac Pro, easing any compunction I might otherwise feel to update the Mac Pro OS.
Call me old-fashioned, but my MP runs DP so nicely I don't foresee a studio OS update anytime soon.
Good luck to you who live on the bleeding edge! I (and other selfish alarmists
) thank you for your time and efforts, and hope you find nothing but joy in Sierra. Someday, we may follow the mountain trail you cleared.-
daniel.sneed
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
So far so good with DP on Sierra.
dAn Shakin' all over! 
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Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum & Michelangelo, LX480
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Studiologic VMK, ControlPad
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Many mics, mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
DP11.31, OS12.7.4, MacBookPro-i7-3.1Ghz-16GoRam-1ToSSD
Falcon, Kontakt, Ozone, RX, Unisum & Michelangelo, LX480
Waldorf Iridium & STVC & Blofeld, Kemper Profiler Stage, EWIusb, Studiologic VMK, ControlPad
JBL4326+4312sub, Behringer X32rack
Many mics, mandolins, banjos, guitars, flutes, melodions, xylos, kalimbas...
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Robert Randolph
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
Same.daniel.sneed wrote:So far so good with DP on Sierra.
Still need to test all of my plugins though.
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Morpheo
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I upgraded earlier today on my 5,1 Mac Pro. So far so good. Nothing really impressive in Sierra, I don't care about Siri or the other stuff specific to this version. In fact I upgraded because it was supposed to be a huge improvement for Pro Tools, according to the DUC guys. Well, PT performance was already very good for me in 10.11.6 and it's the exact same in Sierra, sometimes I wonder what these guys are thinking over there, too much whining maybe. Anyway, as for DP, no difference either. All my plugins are working. Not a single issue to report (yet). 
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NI Komplete Ultimate 11//Albion One//Soundiron Choirs//Pianoteq//Analog Lab//VSL SE & Chamber Strings//etc
Pro Tools 2018.7//LPX 10.4.1//DP 9.51
NI Komplete Ultimate 11//Albion One//Soundiron Choirs//Pianoteq//Analog Lab//VSL SE & Chamber Strings//etc
Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
awesome... I'm jumping soon as UAD works...
waxman
DP9.5, Macbook Pro (2018) Mojave, Slate VMS mic, Everything Bundle, Dual Raven MTI 2, Apollo Twin Quad, UAD Arrow, UAD Satellite Octo Tbolt and all the UAD plugs, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate & Arturia V Collection 6, Maschine Studio MK3 Hardware, NI Komplete Kontrol 61s MK 2, Spectrasonics Ominisphere, Superior Drummer, BFD3, Ozone 7, Altiverb, Sound Toys, Waves, Final Cut X. PT 11.
DP9.5, Macbook Pro (2018) Mojave, Slate VMS mic, Everything Bundle, Dual Raven MTI 2, Apollo Twin Quad, UAD Arrow, UAD Satellite Octo Tbolt and all the UAD plugs, NI Komplete 11 Ultimate & Arturia V Collection 6, Maschine Studio MK3 Hardware, NI Komplete Kontrol 61s MK 2, Spectrasonics Ominisphere, Superior Drummer, BFD3, Ozone 7, Altiverb, Sound Toys, Waves, Final Cut X. PT 11.
Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
Can anyone tell me if Messages and AirDrop are broken for devices that don't support Bluetooth LE?
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Robert Randolph
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
Welp. I'm back to El cap.
None of my Karabiner mappings work, nor does the side buttons on my mouse. I thought this would be fixable, but nope.
Also, to anyone out there using any 'gaming' style mouse or keyboard products: stay away from Sierra. A lot of them are broken. Razer, Steelseries, Filco, Ducky all confirmed not working correctly.
However, before I gave up I was able to confirm DP working fine for the most part (I didn't test everything that I'd want to). Fabfilter, Waves, Sknote, Eventide, U-He, Valhalla, Voxengo, Eareckon, Air, Liquidsonics and Glitch 2 all appear to work ok.
None of my Karabiner mappings work, nor does the side buttons on my mouse. I thought this would be fixable, but nope.
Also, to anyone out there using any 'gaming' style mouse or keyboard products: stay away from Sierra. A lot of them are broken. Razer, Steelseries, Filco, Ducky all confirmed not working correctly.
However, before I gave up I was able to confirm DP working fine for the most part (I didn't test everything that I'd want to). Fabfilter, Waves, Sknote, Eventide, U-He, Valhalla, Voxengo, Eareckon, Air, Liquidsonics and Glitch 2 all appear to work ok.
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crescentoon55
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I ended up erasing my updated disk and did a clean install of Sierra only to find that it was not recognized as bootable!! Hopefully the next update will improve the situation. Personally I don't need all the iOS bells and whistles offered so I will stay with Mavericks as long as possible.
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Shooshie
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
That's not good, though I'm sure they'll work it out in time, but until then... I guess it's El Capitan.Robert Randolph wrote:... to anyone out there using any 'gaming' style mouse or keyboard products: stay away from Sierra. A lot of them are broken. Razer, Steelseries, Filco, Ducky all confirmed not working correctly.
I'm wondering if that extends over to JiTouch, the app for the Magic Trackpad and Magic Mouse. Has anyone tried that yet? Is it working?
Also, I'm always concerned to find out if Wallander Instruments is working in any new OS, in this case, Sierra. That would be a deal breaker for me.
Shoosh
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Robert Randolph
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Re: Mac OS Sierra Who's Brave?
I saw a couple folks saying JiTouch wasn't working on IRC.Shooshie wrote:That's not good, though I'm sure they'll work it out in time, but until then... I guess it's El Capitan.Robert Randolph wrote:... to anyone out there using any 'gaming' style mouse or keyboard products: stay away from Sierra. A lot of them are broken. Razer, Steelseries, Filco, Ducky all confirmed not working correctly.
I'm wondering if that extends over to JiTouch, the app for the Magic Trackpad and Magic Mouse. Has anyone tried that yet? Is it working?
Also, I'm always concerned to find out if Wallander Instruments is working in any new OS, in this case, Sierra. That would be a deal breaker for me.
Shoosh
I do know that BTT and Karabiner are not working though (similar types of 'modify your input device' apps).