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DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:13 am
by jacey714
Just updated to 9.1 and I noticed when I play piano with sustain pedal it seems to work fine...but when I press record, the sustain pedal stops working. When I play back the recording, sustain pedal can be heard. Very annoying because I can't hear the sustain pedal working during recording~ Anybody else have this problem?
J
Running MacBook Pro 15" Retina, Apollo Twin Thunderbolt
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:38 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
Working fine here. Have you tried rebooting the machine?
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:02 am
by jacey714
I just tried rebooting...It seems to work on the very first pass...then after that, it goes right back to the problem again~
J
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:10 am
by cuttime
Could the sustain be assigned to a MIDI Master?
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:47 am
by David Polich
What controller/keyboard are you using?
What brand/model of sustain pedal are you using?
This sounds like a hardware problem to me. It could be as simple as your sustain pedal
has a short. OR, you need to reverse the pedal's polarity (many have a little switch on the bottom
of the pedal, just move it to the other position, and then close your project and reboot your controller keyboard.)
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:34 pm
by dix
Could the sustain pedal behavior be something to do with the new pre-gen feature. Looks like pre-gen can no longer be turned off. Closed VIs revert to pre-gen. ...i think that's what the what's-new doc says.
Do you get the same behavior if the VI's window is open?
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:24 pm
by jacey714
David Polich wrote:What controller/keyboard are you using?
What brand/model of sustain pedal are you using?
This sounds like a hardware problem to me. It could be as simple as your sustain pedal
has a short. OR, you need to reverse the pedal's polarity (many have a little switch on the bottom
of the pedal, just move it to the other position, and then close your project and reboot your controller keyboard.)
I'm using M-Audio Oxygen61 with an M-Audio sustain pedal~ They both work perfectly fine when I'm not recording...It's only when I push the record button, the sustain pedal cannot be heard...but the MIDI data is still recorded~ However, it seems to work fine while in Overdub Record mode~ but the problem persists in normal record mode~ Also, everything was working fine in 9.02 before I updated to 9.1~ This is very annoying~
J
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:37 am
by JSmith1234567
I had not seen this thread, but please check out my thread over here from just installing DP 9.1...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62126
Same exact problem with different gear and Mac.
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:49 pm
by jacey714
JSmith1234567 wrote:I had not seen this thread, but please check out my thread over here from just installing DP 9.1...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=62126
Same exact problem with different gear and Mac.
Definitely seems like the same problem~ I reverted to 9.02 for now until someone can figure out a solution~
J
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:48 pm
by cuttime
I haven't had time to investigate this completely, and I duplicated the problem exactly once, but does anyone know if it makes any difference if the plug is in pre-gen or not? Also, what plug are you using? When I encountered this I was using Kontakt in pre-gen mode.
EDIT-well apparently pre-gen mode does not exist for live playing the way I understand it, now, but I'm getting over my head with some of the technical details.
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:03 pm
by dix
cuttime wrote:I haven't had time to investigate this completely, and I duplicated the problem exactly once, but does anyone know if it makes any difference if the plug is in pre-gen or not? Also, what plug are you using? When I encountered this I was using Kontakt in pre-gen mode.
Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:08 pm
by cuttime
dix wrote:Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
So how could this possibly work with a plug played in real time?
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:29 pm
by dix
cuttime wrote:dix wrote:Pre-gen can't be turned off in 9.1.
So how could this possibly work with a plug played in real time?
Right. I don't know. Pre-gen is working under the hood in ways that no one around here seems to understand.
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:30 pm
by jacey714
As I mentioned earlier it does seem to work while it's in Overdub Record mode for some reason...
J
Re: DP 9.1 sustain pedal not audible during recording
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:27 am
by charnach
jacey714 wrote:Just updated to 9.1 and I noticed when I play piano with sustain pedal it seems to work fine...but when I press record, the sustain pedal stops working. When I play back the recording, sustain pedal can be heard. Very annoying because I can't hear the sustain pedal working during recording~ Anybody else have this problem?
J
Running MacBook Pro 15" Retina, Apollo Twin Thunderbolt
I have had this problem as well. Had to go back to 9.02 to continue working on my project. MBP 15" retina, MOTU UltraLite MK3, Kurzweil PC3 for a controller.