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Hi all,

does anyone have a solution for drawing in tempo when the time signature has a dotted quarter as basis?

I was trying to draw in some ritardando ramps from dotted quarter=64 to, say, d.q.= 50. What happens is that each new tempo that's made and shows up in the Event window keeps the number, but it applies to a quarter with no dot. Which means the tempo slows down by a 3rd, if I'm not wrong.

Example - my tempo is fixed at d.quarter=64. I draw in a descending ramp. The first tempo value will be 63,9 but it's quarter(NO DOT)=63.9! A third slower! I would need to manualy go through each of the increments of the tempo change and change the beat value to dotted.

Any solutions please?

You might try scaling tempo in the region menu item.

I do plenty of work with tempos like 6/8, 12/8, 9/8. This is a bit of an oversite in DP.

Here are a couple things you can try:

1. You can option drag tempo "T" events and make your shape kind of manually. (That's what I do). You'll probably want to adjust the grid in the Conductor graphic editor-- though you can change tempos whenever you want.

2. Perhaps if you switch over to the tempo slider mode and set the tempo to be dotted quarter based there, it will carry over (?) when you switch back to conductor mode. (post back and let us know if that works).

3. I wonder if you changed the default tempo in your default template if that would have any bearing. Probably not. I expect #2 is more likely.

Hi,

thanks for the replies.
You confirmed that i really needed a workaround, I thought I may be missing an option DP has.

Scaling tempo could work, i used it sometimes on whole project or a large portion level, but for these purposes I somehow liked best to just draw it in.

So you gave me an idea to copy the starting tempo a bunch of times close to each other, and use the Reshape tool to draw in the curve I like. If there's more of those, I 'll just copy the whole thing and Reshape again.

Long live RR.
Trying with the Tempo slider didn't work.

Thanks, you guys rule!

In the (SE window) conductor track's mini menu go to Insert>Tempo Beat Value. I think that's what you're looking for...unless I'm misreading your post.

Phil

[edit] Hmm. I can't seem to get Tempo Beat Value to work at all in DP9. It's working fine in DP 8.07. Just thought I'd mention that in case you're having problems.

Hey Phil,

you got it right, that's it! Huge timesaver!
I'm having a german beer, everyone deserved one.

Cheers!

Great! Glad to help.

Phil

Phil O wrote:Hmm. I can't seem to get Tempo Beat Value to work at all in DP9. It's working fine in DP 8.07. Just thought I'd mention that in case you're having problems.

I was curious and had a look. Initially, I could change the Tempo Beat Value in a few places, and the correct value would show up in the Tempo track and Event Information Window, but not in the Event List. Turns out the Event List and the Sequence Editor weren't showing the same sequence. Using the Chunks Window to clear that up, the Tempo Beat Value function appears to work fine here.

well this saved days of my life a couple of years after this original thread started... thanks Phil [ and vladat]. oh and thanks Motivation for being.

very grateful. couldn't find any clue to reference to this even searching the PDF manual.