DP 9 impressions and issues thread

[toodamnhip]

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being.

That’s quite bizarre that ilok versions cause crashes? I wonder why?

[James Steele]

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being.

That’s quite bizarre that ilok versions cause crashes? I wonder why?

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but he seems to be saying that the iLok version doesn't have this problem?

[toodamnhip]

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being.

That’s quite bizarre that ilok versions cause crashes? I wonder why?

Maybe I'm reading that wrong, but he seems to be saying that the iLok version doesn't have this problem?

Yes is Mis typed
But it is bizarre that any difference in iLok status would be the difference between crashing on quit and not crashing

[tommymandel]

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being...

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Ever since iLok 'changed' I have had a plug-in that I have to re-authorize everytime I restart my MBP. iLok says it's a Sound-Toys problem, and vice versa. So I would believe that iLok has some hook into the System that might be problematical or poorly coded. My hunch is it relates to the way you can now authorize a computer itself for an iLok-type authorization, instead of it residing on the physical iLok.

[toodamnhip]

I'm using the ilok version, which seems to be their only solution to the crash on quit problem for the time being...

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Ever since iLok 'changed' I have had a plug-in that I have to re-authorize everytime I restart my MBP. iLok says it's a Sound-Toys problem, and vice versa. So I would believe that iLok has some hook into the System that might be problematical or poorly coded. My hunch is it relates to the way you can now authorize a computer itself for an iLok-type authorization, instead of it residing on the physical iLok.

Dude!! That's a really cool explanation. I like that word you used to describe the bug... "hook" in the system....nice. I feel enlightened.

[jahjedi]

Hi,

I'm not sure if its a DP9 bug or user error but I'm trying to export a soundbite (Export>Selected Soundbites) and the resulting audio file is completely silent all the way through. I've tried both simply selecting the soundbite as well as swiping it. It's output channel is correctly set to the main outs.

I also found I get a silent file if i try to bounce a session to disc where at least one track has a live instance of the Etch plug (FXpansion) on it. There might be an Etch update I need to go find.

Anyway, just thought I'd share some issues that've I'd not come across in previous versions

Thanks
James

[Basstrup]

One more issue in lanes...

Holding down the Option key in the lower third of the Soundbites "lane" changes the tool to Magnifying glass as expected (including changing cursor). In an other lane it changes to magnifying glass in the full lane heigh, which is fine but the cursor remains the pointer, it does not change to the magnifying glass.

Just a small one, but it would be nice to see consistent UI.

[sdfalk]

When Creating track groups in DP , and going to custom, I find a repeatable crash there.

[bayswater]

When Creating track groups in DP , and going to custom, I find a repeatable crash there.

I selected three tracks, clicked Project > Track Groups > New Track Group, and changed the drop down menu from Edit and Mix to Custom, changed a few options and clicked OK. I tried it twice and got no crash.

Are you using different steps to produce a crash?

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I really think that specific 3rd party system enhancements and plugs are largely responsible for odd crashes only individuals are seeing. A driver here. A graphic enhancement there. Even certain system settings., a corrupted plist file. I do believe they all play a role in the oddball crashed.

The system and software has gotten so deep and complicated that something is bound to go wrong sometime.

[Killahurts]

I really think that specific 3rd party system enhancements and plugs are largely responsible for odd crashes only individuals are seeing. A driver here. A graphic enhancement there. Even certain system settings., a corrupted plist file. I do believe they all play a role in the oddball crashed.

The system and software has gotten so deep and complicated that something is bound to go wrong sometime.

I agree. But it seems from reports on this board that DP9 is overall solid. It has been solid for me, in that there have been no crashes. Whenever I hit the spacebar to stop, there is a popping sound, like something suddenly shutting off.. could be a CPU spike, but I wouldn't know, I shut that indicator off a long time ago Other than that, works great.

Here is an odd behavior:

I'm not sure what it's called, but the MIDI now plays from the middle of MIDI events, i.e. you don't have to play from before a MIDI note to make it sound. So If you have a long chord, let's say a string pad, and (from stopped) you hit play somewhere in it, it will still play those chords, as though it were audio. Is this a result of under-the-hood changes that occurred to make MIDI mute happen?

I noticed it when I was tracking audio, with MIDI VIs playing. Never happened with previous versions. Didn't read about it in the update notes.. I hope it was intended. This undocumented feature alone made it worth the upgrade cost for me. I've wished for this forever.

[dix]

I'm not sure what it's called, but the MIDI now plays from the middle of MIDI events, i.e. you don't have to play from before a MIDI note to make it sound. So If you have a long chord, let's say a string pad, and (from stopped) you hit play somewhere in it, it will still play those chords, as though it were audio. Is this a result of under-the-hood changes that occurred to make MIDI mute happen?

DP has always done this for me. There's an option for this in Setup>Event Chasing. Set to Notes it plays MIDI data from wherever you start the sequence.

[Killahurts]

I'm not sure what it's called, but the MIDI now plays from the middle of MIDI events, i.e. you don't have to play from before a MIDI note to make it sound. So If you have a long chord, let's say a string pad, and (from stopped) you hit play somewhere in it, it will still play those chords, as though it were audio. Is this a result of under-the-hood changes that occurred to make MIDI mute happen?

DP has always done this for me. There's an option for this in Setup>Event Chasing. Set to Notes it plays MIDI data from wherever you start the sequence.

Interesting.. never knew it was there. Maybe they've changed the default to have it on- that would explain why it's suddenly "new" to me

[toodamnhip]

It's been great except for I can't seem to change MIDI channels (say I want to assign Machfive-1 MIDI channel to Machfive-2), as the pull down menu doesn't pull down - no response on MIDI track outputs when I click on them, but audio and axes are fine... I then updated to OS X 10.10.3, and that seemed to have taken care of the problem, but tonite as I went into a couple projects, the same non-response on MIDI channels has surfaced again....weird...

I suppose I'll try re-installing DP9 (DP8 works fine) and see what happens.

Have you found a fix yet for this issue?
I couldn't change or even assign MIDI channels!! The pull down menus for MIDI channels show MIDI assignments but are unchangable....What???? I then re started computer and DP and it worked...strange.
I might have to go back to DP 8 if I keep finding issues. And the mute automation bug for plug ins is about to make me leave 9 for sure. Any plug in that has mute automation is subject to this bug...some plus automate mutes fine, some don’t. This makes all my past mixes subject to automation failure....Yikes.

[Gravity Jim]

Impressions:

Love the new "Nine" theme.
Runs like a total champ. I can see and feel the enhanced memory handling and inside tweaks. No weirdness.
MicroG and MicroB are a bit of a disappointment.
However, MX4 is actually better than I expected.
Both Live Room plugs seem to be working better for me. The bass room is now very usable.
The buffer size pull down in the CP is a nice touch. Handy.
Still don't feel a need for Mute MIDI Notes, but I may find one now that it's here.
Floating VI windows come in handy, even with plenty of display space, especially when setting gain staging through a plug.
The new Create Tracks window is a winner.
And even though I'm more likely to replay a MIDI par than edit it into submission, I still really appriciate the controller lanes. Looking forward to seeing them in the MIDI window.
Tabbed subwindows in the CW! Alright now!