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First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:02 am
by ronjams
On the website they claim that this sound set is compatible with the Mach V. Can anyone confirm this? Or does this require a conversion process?

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:03 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
Can you please post a link?

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:27 am
by ronjams
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Can you please post a link?
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?769#

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:18 am
by kgdrum
fwiw,
I remember reading that BigFish libraries are not allowed to be used commercially or you need to get permission on a case by case basis.
I'm not sure if this is still true but I'd check just in case......... ;-)

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:38 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
kgdrum wrote:fwiw,
I remember reading that BigFish libraries are not allowed to be used commercially or you need to get permission on a case by case basis.
I'm not sure if this is still true but I'd check just in case......... ;-)
That wouldn't make much sense and would probably stop a lot of folks from nuying. THis is from their site:
License Agreement

The Following End User License Agreement is included with First Call Horns. This License is only valid for the individual who has purchased an unopened, new and lawfully made copy of First Call Horns from a dealer or distributor authorized by Big Fish Audio.

"The samples contained herein are licensed, not sold to you, the individual end user, by Big Fish Audio. This non-exclusive, non-transferable license is granted only to the individual end user who has purchased an unopened, new and lawfully made copy of this product from a dealer or distributor authorized by Big Fish Audio. All samples remain the property of Big Fish Audio and are licensed only for use in the creation of a live or recorded performance that includes the licensed samples as part of a derivative musical work created by the licensed end user. This license expressly forbids resale, rental, loan, gift or transfer of these samples in any format or via any medium, except as part of a derivative musical work. The samples may not be included, whether unmodified or as part of a derivative work, in any sample library product. Any unlicensed usage will be prosecuted to the maximum extent possible under the law."
Sounds like it's OK for production. I don't know that the "not for production" thing would hold up in court anyway. You're using it for the intended purpose and if a company tries to block you from using sounds in your composition, it would be like Steinway saying you can't record their pianos. Totally counter-productive and too limiting based on the "intended use." I'd love to fight that one in court.

More importantly, their demos (listening demos) don't work in Safari or Chrome and if they can't get that right, why would i trust their samples? I'll pass, thank you, but I appreciate the o/p letting us know and posting the link. Thanks!

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:02 am
by kgdrum
my bad......
maybe they changed the eula, i remember users talking about this on Vi-Control a year or 2 back.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:15 pm
by bayswater
ronjams wrote:On the website they claim that this sound set is compatible with the Mach V. Can anyone confirm this? Or does this require a conversion process?
I can't see a claim about Mach 5 on the site. In theory you can read some Giga and Kontakt files into Mach five, although I have very little success with Kontakt imports.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:27 pm
by ronjams
bayswater wrote:
ronjams wrote:On the website they claim that this sound set is compatible with the Mach V. Can anyone confirm this? Or does this require a conversion process?
I can't see a claim about Mach 5 on the site. In theory you can read some Giga and Kontakt files into Mach five, although I have very little success with Kontakt imports.
The information is there under the link provided on the page under description highlighted in blue and to the left click on the word compatibility. I suspect that the product is encrypted and no real compatibility is possible.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:35 pm
by bayswater
ronjams wrote:
bayswater wrote:I can't see a claim about Mach 5 on the site. In theory you can read some Giga and Kontakt files into Mach five, although I have very little success with Kontakt imports.
The information is there under the link provided on the page under description highlighted in blue and to the left click on the word compatibility. I suspect that the product is encrypted and no real compatibility is possible.
Reading the description, they seem to be relying on the information provided with Mach 5 on compatibility. So it may be readable by Mach 5. I've had some success reading EXS24 files. But you really ought to contact them and ask if they've actually tested it.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:47 am
by BKK-OZ
I recently bought Session Horns from NI (for Kontakt). Somewhat limited in terms of flexibility, but pretty good overall for $99. Not sure if it needs the full version of Kontakt or if it can just use the player.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:41 am
by ronjams
bayswater wrote:
ronjams wrote:
bayswater wrote:I can't see a claim about Mach 5 on the site. In theory you can read some Giga and Kontakt files into Mach five, although I have very little success with Kontakt imports.
The information is there under the link provided on the page under description highlighted in blue and to the left click on the word compatibility. I suspect that the product is encrypted and no real compatibility is possible.
Reading the description, they seem to be relying on the information provided with Mach 5 on compatibility. So it may be readable by Mach 5. I've had some success reading EXS24 files. But you really ought to contact them and ask if they've actually tested it.
I will call them later today and report back to this list.

Re: First Call Horns Big fish Audio

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:02 pm
by ronjams
I will call them later today and report back to this list.
After contacting Big Fish Audio and motu and a follow up call again with Big Fish Audio the deal is to purchase the Gigasampler edition of the First Call Horns. The Mach V will read this library. I've personally tested this out today after receiving the DVD ROM in the mail.