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Shooshie wrote:Beats the holy living crap out of "you can have free drinks at the bar!"
Shoosh, you've got that right! That was another life. Another time. I don't know why any of us caved to that BS. Young and foolish.
PLO
Oh, that's back when we're still purists and don't want to prostitute our "art." Back before I knew that I had already traded in my ability to listen to music sheerly for enjoyment, and that now I listen to bass lines while noting interesting chord changes, drum fills, and lastly… oh yeah… that little melody line on top. Lyrics? There are five lyrics: A, E, I, O, and U, and each vocalist usually does one or two of them very well. Hell, if I'm gonna be doing that all my life (and I can't help but do it), then there better be some zeroes on my checks!
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toodamnhip wrote:I think everyone here that "slams" Miley, would take a gig with her in a heartbeat.
Nope. Can't be bothered. Not all that fond of money I guess.
And she really really really really needs to put that tongue back in her mouth. Every photo I've seen of her for the last week has that thing out in the breeze. Its not sexy. Its not attractive. Its not even a statement. Its just nasty.
That’ “nope” you write looks so good on paper. Along with the quip about not liking money.
Well, that means you don’t like nice houses, gourmet food and restaurants, equipment, vacations, cars, lifestyle, the ability to produce your own music and pay for musicians, orchestras or whatever is needed, no holds barred etc......yeah right. Money “sucks”.
Easy to say until you see the check with all the zeros on it.
It may come as a shock to you, TDH, but some people don't have a need or fixation on material luxuries at the expense of their principles or self-respect. I'm sure you'd see that as silly.
BKK-OZ wrote:The Beatles' haircuts weren't screaming "look at me!"
Well, for a few months, they did. The haircuts were a big deal. They shook their heads to emphasize it. If you wanted to get looked at, copying the hair, not the music, was the best way.
toodamnhip wrote:
1) The young decide what THEY want to hear. The older people have way less say on the pop charts and it has ALWAYS been the case that the previous generation looks at the next wave of music with distain, feeling the musical world is ending.
Don't buy that for a second.
Right. Just listen to Eric Burden's take on Bo Diddley.
toodamnhip wrote:
1) The young decide what THEY want to hear. The older people have way less say on the pop charts and it has ALWAYS been the case that the previous generation looks at the next wave of music with distain, feeling the musical world is ending.
Don't buy that for a second.
Right. Just listen to Eric Burden's take on Bo Diddley.
Don't leave his part out.
The young don't decide what they want to hear by listening to whatever pop icon is out there any more than people eat at McDonalds because it's good food.
My point is clear. Miley and the rest of the cultivated pack of industry Barbie and Ken dolls, Justin Timberlake, Spears, and the little spawning grounds for those people like Backstreet Boys, Disney channel kids shows, and the like are not an example of kids liking a new "sound". Rap, Metal, Punk, and even Dubstep are examples of your point, but it's not that simple. I'm talking about the difference between the Monkeys and the Beattles (not the Beattles and the 'new sound' of Depache Mode for an example), and how we live in an age when the Monkeys are out selling the Beattles every time.
The industry has turned music into a McDonalds outlet, and that isn't a matter of youth deciding but executives our age and older throwing money towards these 'projects'. The only redeeming factor is that hopefully people will get bored of fast food for a little while. I hope the kids do something.
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bayswater wrote:Just listen to Eric Burden's take on Bo Diddley.
Are you talking about what he did with The Animals, or something later?
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Michael Canavan wrote:I hope the kids do something.
I thought the Beatles did Something.
Sorry
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Michael Canavan wrote:
My point is clear. Miley and the rest of the cultivated pack of industry Barbie and Ken dolls, Justin Timberlake, Spears, and the little spawning grounds for those people like Backstreet Boys, Disney channel kids shows, and the like are not an example of kids liking a new "sound". Rap, Metal, Punk, and even Dubstep are examples of your point, but it's not that simple. I'm talking about the difference between the Monkeys and the Beattles (not the Beattles and the 'new sound' of Depache Mode for an example), and how we live in an age when the Monkeys are out selling the Beattles every time.
The industry has turned music into a McDonalds outlet, and that isn't a matter of youth deciding but executives our age and older throwing money towards these 'projects'. The only redeeming factor is that hopefully people will get bored of fast food for a little while. I hope the kids do something.
Justin Timberlake imoho is the real deal, quite a voice,talent and showman,his band performing live is as good as any bands out there in the Pop/R&B world.
He might have started out as marketing creation but he is someone you probably need to hear NOW to appreciate how talented he really is.
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You know, in a few days this two-week old thread on a subject nobody claims to care about will have as many posts as the Bitching and Moaning thread, which is about four years old. I've filed that under "things that make ya go 'hmmmm.'"
I'd work with Miley Cyrus in a heartbeat, although I'd prefer to work with Britney (I do have a singer coming in today who doesn't look anything like Ms. Spears but is her equal in undiluted hotness). Which is only to say that I wish I had the skills that pay the bills and could spin straw into gold.
And yeah, JT is fer realz, yo. He can hang with anybody.
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Agreed on Timberlake. I like him. Talented, but more importantly I suspect he had some good parenting along the way. He seems very well grounded, self-effacing and a good sport (SNL appearances) and avoided the pitfalls of Justin Bieber for example.
Well this is interesting I think. Miley mentioned that she was influenced by Sinead O'Connor's "Nothing Compares to You" video. Sinead posted a rather frank open letter to Miley on her blog expressing sincere concern for the way her career is being directed.
toodamnhip wrote:
That’ “nope” you write looks so good on paper. Along with the quip about not liking money.
Well, that means you don’t like nice houses, gourmet food and restaurants, equipment, vacations, cars, lifestyle, the ability to produce your own music and pay for musicians, orchestras or whatever is needed, no holds barred etc......yeah right. Money “sucks”.
Easy to say until you see the check with all the zeros on it.
James Steele wrote:It may come as a shock to you, TDH, but some people don't have a need or fixation on material luxuries at the expense of their principles or self-respect. I'm sure you'd see that as silly.
I am not here for "extremes". It is EXTREME to say one has NO need for money, so I pointed out the usefulness of $. That does not mean I subscribe to the OTHER extreme of money worship. Consider me in the middle. I make money, but I also play heavy, totally artistic Jazz. I don't lose artistic integrity at all times. I do both. I make money part of the time, I do artful things other parts of the time. It's a matter of balance. But to say that a check coming in from Miley Cyrus is something people here would turn down, to me, is extreme. You take the check, and then, etch out free time and use the check for your artistic endeavors..at least that's how I see it. As far as self respect and principal, well, I don't see being behind the scenes making a top artists music being equal to her sticking her tongue out or being naked. The folks making her tracks are respected as top notch producers and musicians. I doubt they are thought of as whores. It is GOOD to have Miley on one's resume'.
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First of all I'm out and don't have time to respond yet, because you're misinterpreting my comments. In the meantime, please fix your quoting, because at least on Tapatalk you have one improperly attributed quote. Thanks.
P.S. I make the distinction between taking a check for production work behind the scenes and actually being the artist who's intentionally acting "certifiable" in public to generate press.
