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Chord Track in DP8

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Anyone have a way to incorporate chord symbols into a sequence (like Logic's Global Chord Track)? Best I can come up with is to create Markers for each chord change and then set one counter to display Marker titles in the control panel. Works reasonably well, but Is there a better way?

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Other than Quickscribe, I don't think you can. Maybe there's a font of chord symbols that you could use that DP might allow as marker names? It might be something that could be incorporated into a theme? Ampildood might know.
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Other than quickscribe...no. BUT....if you are really just needing chord "reminders" over the tracks in the sequencer or tracks editor...just place a marker on those measures or beats and name the marker with your chord.
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bralston wrote:Other than quickscribe...no. BUT....if you are really just needing chord "reminders" over the tracks in the sequencer or tracks editor...just place a marker on those measures or beats and name the marker with your chord.
You've got it, Brian. I just want to see a chord track in tracks or seq editor views to make it more like looking at a score. So far, markers is the only way I've found to do it in DP, though I hear Logic has made a bit of effort in this area.
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Rick Cornish wrote:
bralston wrote:Other than quickscribe...no. BUT....if you are really just needing chord "reminders" over the tracks in the sequencer or tracks editor...just place a marker on those measures or beats and name the marker with your chord.
You've got it, Brian. I just want to see a chord track in tracks or seq editor views to make it more like looking at a score. So far, markers is the only way I've found to do it in DP, though I hear Logic has made a bit of effort in this area.
Great idea for a feature I would love to have - and a brilliant bit of lateral thinking to give a workable solution. Wish I had thought of it years ago!!
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I'd like to see some kind of scrolling note pad track where you could add anything along the time line you want.
Lyrics,cords or whatever.
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I agree Gaz, and seems like it wouldn't be too hard to implement: transposing chord changes with modulations, etc. This would be very helpful.
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in cubase 7 is very well done. Chord track is connected to any MIDI track and plays written harmony
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wylie1 wrote:I'd like to see some kind of scrolling note pad track where you could add anything along the time line you want.
Lyrics,cords or whatever.
+1
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BKK-OZ wrote:
wylie1 wrote:I'd like to see some kind of scrolling note pad track where you could add anything along the time line you want.
Lyrics,cords or whatever.
+1
I would use that constantly, especially for editing notes: "Move bass note" "add guitar lick" "correct voc edit" "double vox here" as well as for chords etc. I use markers for this sometimes but it gets pretty cluttered especially with longer text running into the next marker. I was kind of liking the idea of markers-per-track but your idea might be more easily implemented and not create a lot of visual clutter in the TO.
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I would use that constantly, especially for editing notes: "Move bass note" "add guitar lick" "correct voc edit" "double vox here" as well as for chords etc. I use markers for this sometimes but it gets pretty cluttered especially with longer text running into the next marker. I was kind of liking the idea of markers-per-track but your idea might be more easily implemented and not create a lot of visual clutter in the TO.
I do a lot of work in video and Avid MediaComposer has a great feature where you can add what they call "markers" on the fly as a video plays, then go back and add comments to them for just the purpose you described—making revisions. I would use this as well.
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What if you could add a second (or other) "marker layers" that stack beneath the Conductor Track? One could be for however you currently use your markers while the other could be used for quick production notes. It could avoid eye clutter. Each Marker Layer could have its own Event List, or you could consolidate your Marker Layers into one Marker Event List as needed.

Those markers could also be linked to the Comments column per track in the Track Columns where you could jot down things in more detail. That could also be linked to a Comments Window where you can see all of your notes in sort of a spread sheet format on one page. It would be a to-do-ta-dah list, so to speak, where you could check off the production tasks as they are completed.

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Frodo wrote:What if you could add a second (or other) "marker layers" that stack beneath the Conductor Track? One could be for however you currently use your markers while the other could be used for quick production notes. It could avoid eye clutter. Each Marker Layer could have its own Event List, or you could consolidate your Marker Layers into one Marker Event List as needed.

Those markers could also be linked to the Comments column per track in the Track Columns where you could jot down things in more detail. That could also be linked to a Comments Window where you can see all of your notes in sort of a spread sheet format on one page. It would be a to-do-ta-dah list, so to speak, where you could check off the production tasks as they are completed.

Ta-dah!
I think all this line of thinking is great. I really want to be able to make notes along the timeline in some fashion that are easy to access but not an eyesore. Frodo your ideas are spot-on. Keep dreamin' stuff up and postin' it.
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Thanks Phil, but I can't take full credit. We all used to keep pages of production notes and scribbled on the back of large boxes of magnetic tape. It was only a matter of thinking in terms of GUI integration.

But there's something which I completely overlooked: The Track Inspector's comments window is already linked to the comments window in the Track Columns. While the Marker Layer idea remains only an idea, the comments windows might be at least one step ahead with keeping production notes.
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Rick Cornish wrote:I just want to see a chord track in tracks or seq editor views to make it more like looking at a score.
I like the markers window idea for chords as well, but if it's something like looking at a score you're looking for, the Notation Window is really great for that and the markers with chord names show up! You'll have to open the picture in a new window or tab to see it all. I just entered arbitrary notes for the example (duh!).

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