DP8 is on it's way now.
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Come to think of it, the last time i had ANY problem it was real time. DP would just not record a segment after a length of time (which varied) and then would start again.
My bounce "errors" have always been due to user error.
My bounce "errors" have always been due to user error.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
I've R'ed the F'n M. I just misunderstood you. Sorry.
I've been using the QuickScribe window exclusively, and didn't realize that notation window still existed. And yes, it IS sloppy (a.k.a. underdeveloped).
Anyway, I'm glad to know it's still there. I'll probably start using it in addition to the QS window.
I've been using the QuickScribe window exclusively, and didn't realize that notation window still existed. And yes, it IS sloppy (a.k.a. underdeveloped).
Anyway, I'm glad to know it's still there. I'll probably start using it in addition to the QS window.
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For times when you need to read what you've played and move it to a convenient staff location, the notation window is great. I'd NEVER use it for notation - nor the QS window for that matter as I'm Finale literate.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Got it.
For me, the QuickScribe window does most of what I need (though I do have to jump through a few extra little hoops). Going from arrangement to rough parts works fine. Still, I will hope that DP builds on it, and the notation window that I didn't know still existed.
For me, the QuickScribe window does most of what I need (though I do have to jump through a few extra little hoops). Going from arrangement to rough parts works fine. Still, I will hope that DP builds on it, and the notation window that I didn't know still existed.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
I think the correct term is long ignored.stubbsonic wrote:And yes, it IS sloppy (a.k.a. underdeveloped). ...
No one here is holding their breath on that one.stubbsonic wrote:... Still, I will hope that DP builds on it, and the notation window that I didn't know still existed.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
The few times that I have, it turned out to be defective RAM. Before I test the RAM in TTP, it (BTD failure) is usually the only warning I get.Prime Mover wrote:Actually, I've never once had a problem with BTD.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Ha!MIDI Life Crisis wrote:I routinely BTD on every project w/o incident. MIDI gets recorded in real time most often, and freezing VIs is how I pull those tracks in. Then I bounce the whole sequence and it's sample accurate and sounds fine. No color wheels or anything unless a HD is clogging things.
I could see where a complex seq with a brazillion (or 10,000) audio tracks could be problematic. I'll leave those recordings for others to make.
I used to BTD all the time until my resulting files were "simplified" in terms of automation, and reverbs and delays were not accurate.
Because of this, I did a test a couple of times: I BTD the same sequence 3 times, and it came out differently each time. None cancelled with any other.
This was quite a complex session, though, but nothing crazy like 10,000 tracks!
IME, Real-time recording, OTOH, is always accurate and will cancel with a duplicate test, no matter how complex the project is (as long as it can handle playback without coughing, of course).
These days, the only things I BTD are temp mixes, temp stems, etc... Things that will be discarded later.
I must emphasize that I've never read a thread here where someone has problems with real-time recording. However, there are BTD-problem threads on almost a weekly basis...
As usual, YMMV.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
To tell you the truth, I'm not quite geeky enough to try the cancellation thing. And perhaps if I bounced again, I might get different results, but for my purposes, what I end up with sounds just like I mixed it. Also, I don't use a lot of plugs. Verb and EQ and maybe dynamics, but I always try for the purest sound I can get. For what I do, less is more.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Are you calling me a geek?MIDI Life Crisis wrote:To tell you the truth, I'm not quite geeky enough to try the cancellation thing. And perhaps if I bounced again, I might get different results, but for my purposes, what I end up with sounds just like I mixed it. Also, I don't use a lot of plugs. Verb and EQ and maybe dynamics, but I always try for the purest sound I can get. For what I do, less is more.
The only reason I did the cancelling test was to confirm what I thought was happening and to make sure my mind was not playing tricks on me (and it wasn't).
As far as plug-ins go, my usage is quite similar to yours, at least with orchestral music. But even if there were a ton of plugs per track, either summing method should work fine.
I will concede that my BTD problems might be related to my ancient G5, which is getting long-in-the-tooth (shouldn't be a reason anyway). But even then, real-time recording has never ever failed me.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Where did this Topic go???? Totally off topic...
C´mon guys, get back on topic or start your own!!!
DP8 is on it's way now.
C´mon guys, get back on topic or start your own!!!
DP8 is on it's way now.
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
The One Horned Mothership still has DP7 up. Any day now!
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
My guess is it won't be released until next quarter in October. That might even be the beginning of MOTU's 2013 fiscal year, if they have their books set up that way. I don't know. If they need a bump in sales for 2012, they better hurry up.
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- Shooshie
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Just to dispel any rumors, and to save some trouble if you actually try to order the DP8 upgrade right now, I just checked with MOTU, and it is definitely not shipping yet. If somehow you WERE able to place an order for an upgrade, you would receive DP 7.2. Chances are, they'd let you have the DP8 upgrade for the shipping cost if that happened, but that's my guess, not MOTU's words.
So, as much as we'd all like to see it arriving in the mail soon, it's not happening yet. Patience…
Shooshie
So, as much as we'd all like to see it arriving in the mail soon, it's not happening yet. Patience…
Shooshie
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Re: DP8 is on it's way now.
Radiogal wrote:Where did this Topic go???? Totally off topic...
C´mon guys, get back on topic or start your own!!!
DP8 is on it's way now.
like we never go off topic! lol
I hope it's indeed coming soon............
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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He lied. Here you go:Radiogal wrote:Ordered DP7 Compatative Upgrade for a client of mine from my MOTU provider in Sweden. He wrote me back and said that MOTU will deliver DP8 instead as DP7 is not sold anymore. Conclusion?
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DigPerf7cg
Order away!