ProVerb vs other convo verbs

[Steve Steele]

It seems that all convo verbs all basically the same, The differences being in 1) IRs (which can mainly be shared), 2) features (Waves IR-1 has was many more features than QP Spaces, but both are great - the EQ on the waves is a good feature), and 3) interface, (and I suppose the programming behind the plugin as far as sound quality and efficiency are major factors too).

That being said, is ProVerb equal to AltiVerb, Spaces, Waves IR-1, etc...? Or am I missing something? It seems convo's are just engines. The IRs and parameter settings makes the difference. Right?

Or are some noticeably different in quality and/or sound.

I'd love to buy AltiVerb (great interface and everything else), but I already own IR-1 and ProVerb.

I know IRs can't do everything (I've got my Algorithmic verbs too), but as a someone who loves sound design, I love em.

I got a question about MachFive 3 as a sound design tool, but taken it over there.

Thanks!

[Shooshie]

I own all three, and I can use them all. I know their interfaces. Yet IMO, none compare to Altiverb. It's just a matter of what you want, what you prefer, where your comfort level is. But Altiverb is a seriously advanced piece of equipment.

If you can't afford Altiverb, or just don't want to get another reverb, then the ones you have will do just fine. You won't miss the features you haven't used in Altiverb, at least not until you use them.

Shooshie

[Armageddon]

I agree! It's like comparing (almost literally) two different soft samplers capable of playing the same sample sets -- you're getting roughly about the same quality of sound, but the controls and details may be much more refined on one over the other.

[Steve Steele]

Understood. That's what I thought. Supposedly Altiverb 7 is less taxing on the CPU then past versions. Have you guys found that to be the case?

Have my eye on Speakerphone and Cabinet as well.

[Armageddon]

Understood. That's what I thought. Supposedly Altiverb 7 is less taxing on the CPU then past versions. Have you guys found that to be the case?

Have my eye on Speakerphone and Cabinet as well.

I have a slow machine and Altiverb (as auxiliary inserts) has always run pretty reliably for me, about as well as most quality algorithm 'verbs do. I don't use them per channel, like many people on here do, so I have no idea what the CPU hit would be if you opened ten instances or anything.

[Todzilla]

I only have ProVerb, but I know it sounds so much better with the Bricasti IR's than any of the stock stuff.

[taka]

Hi Todzilla, how did you get Bricasti IRs recognised by Proverb? I placed it as my other IRs in ~/Library/Application Support/MOTU/Proverb/User but those folders(24/44.1 WAVs) didn't come up in Proverb...

Thx! Taka**

[Steve Steele]

I only have ProVerb, but I know it sounds so much better with the Bricasti IR's than any of the stock stuff.

Yeah, I'd be interested to check that out too.

[Todzilla]

Hi Todzilla, how did you get Bricasti IRs recognised by Proverb? I placed it as my other IRs in ~/Library/Application Support/MOTU/Proverb/User but those folders(24/44.1 WAVs) didn't come up in Proverb...

Thx! Taka**

http://www.motunation.com/forum/viewtop ... 26&t=42508

I think this is the link I used for some trial and error....

[taka]

Thanks Todzilla--

Basically, for the IRs that work, Proverb creates Node.xml and NodeInfo_local.xml files inside each IR folder, but it doesn't do it for some reason for some IRs (including the Bricasti IRs) Does anyone know what's making the difference?

Taka**

[cbergm7210]

I wonder about this as well. As stated in the other post it makes a separate L and R folder for these IR's. Is this the position in the spaces?

[taka]

Hi cbergm7210 , I find that if I use MOTU Application Support Folder in ~/Library rather than /Library , that problem doesn't occur--

Taka*

[cbergm7210]

Hi cbergm7210 , I find that if I use MOTU Application Support Folder in ~/Library rather than /Library , that problem doesn't occur--

Taka*

Hi Taka,

I don't understand, though. Is not the only way to import the IR's is to drag them into ProVerb's screen?